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- With 99% of the vote in for 30th district Sean Kean 35,644 Avi Schnall 27,562 Ned Thompson 17676
- New Jersey Democrats fended off Republican challenges in pivotal state Senate races and flipped three Assembly contests from GOP control Tuesday,
- State Sen. “Ed the Trucker” Durr (R-Logan), who rose to immense and sudden fame in 2021 when he unseated Senate President Steve Sweeney (D-West Deptford), has lost re-election, the New Jersey Globe projects. Former Assemblyman John Burzichelli (D-Paulsboro) leads Durr 54%-46% with most of the vote counted.
- Jackson Township voters today strongly rejected a proposed $4,035,000 tax increase.With 34/34 districts reported, 6,155 voted against, and only 3,417 voted in support of the tax increase. Faanews
-To be clear: in perhaps the most Republican district in the state, Democrat Avi Schnall won a landslide. He leads incumbent Ned Thomson by 8,748 votes after winning 20,189 votes (76%) in Lakewood, a heavily Republican Orthodox Jewish town. Schnall is now the Simcha Felder of NJ. (Wildstein)
-With 100% of Monmouth County districts reporting, Thomson leads Schnall 14,252 to 6,121 but Schnall is leading significantly in the Lakewood portion of the district 20,189 to 6,121 with 100% districts reporting, for an overall lead of 8,748 votes.(SSchorr)
- Phil Murphy: Congrats to Assemblyman-elect @Avi_schnall on your huge upset win in Legislative District 30! There's no other way to say it: Avi's reputation precedes him. The voters of Ocean and Monmouth Counties know how hard he works and how deep his commitment is to the entire community.
- Lakewood final Dem Avi Schnall 20,189 44.45% Sean Kean 19,875 Ned Thompson 3,310 7.29%
- Lakewood final 43/43 Deborah Fuentes 17,495 Ray Coles 17,209 Bruce Stern 4912 Hershel Herskowitz 2,270 Jimmy Esposito 2027 write ins 177
- Lakewood BOE Final incumbents keep their seats Ada Gonzalez 14837, Moshe Raitzik 15,514 Eliyohu Greenwald 14,710 Lang fix the formula candidates Yehuda Shain 2,942 Avrohom Schubert 3,507,Eli Eisenbach 3,846 Yoni Morgenstern 3,322
- Schnall Democrat headquarters Dat 1700 Madison Ave at former Emporio store
- State Sen. Vin Gopal has won re-election to a third term in the 11th district. Democrats flip two Assembly seats, with Margie Donlon and Luanne Peterpaul ousting Republican incumbents Marilyn Piperno and Kim Eulner
- In an unbelievable upset, Democrat Avi Schnall has defeated Republican Assemblyman Ned Thomson in one of the reddest districts in the state. He leads by 453 votes with all of Monmouth in and half of Lakewood machines still uncounted. (David Wildstein)
Pundits call race for Schnall
- LD 30 Assembly 76% vote in Schnall 17,214 Thompson 16,761 kean 25,787
- In Lakewood 17/43 districts reporting Schnall 10,371 Thompson 2,284 kean 10,472
- Lakewood Township Committee 17/43 district Fuentes 9151, Coles 9,831 Herskowitz 1,135
- With almost 41% in, Schnall is the top vote getter so far. You can see how it's the Lakewood Orthodox vote by comparing it to the other D Assembly candiate, or the D Senate candidate who's only at 25% (Matt Friedman)
- Bob Singer wins seat now longest serving state senator in NJ
- In Lakewood, with no Election Day numbers in, Avi Schnall leads Ned Thomson by 7,099 votes but there is a long, long way to go.
In Monmouth portion of 30th no Election Day results Schnall leads Thomson by 23 votes.
NY Times has Schnall ahead with 41% of vote in
ReplyDeletehttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/07/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html
Why would anyone have a subscription to the New York times. They do not let you view it unless you are subscribed
Deletewhy is it taking so long for results to come in?
ReplyDeleteWhen a Democrat steals the election it takes longer for the results
ReplyDeletelol
DeleteSorry Herschel, nice try, you have done best as leader of opposition. It maybe time quit politics take care of your health & back to Kollel for retirement. You can't beat the deep state.
ReplyDeletefor the record the deep state was just overthrown with the vaad going out of power, and i dont know who rich guy backing schnasll trying to come into power. collosal failure of a campaign though, with the lowest voter turnout in a long time, 50,000 ;less votes this time than just2 years ago,
Deletefor a off year non governor non president election??
DeleteLakewood has nothing to be proud of we just caused a tremendous chilul Hashem by flipping a seat that belonged to the locals just for power and money. We angered our republican freinds across New Jersey who stood up for us and stabbed them in the heart.We forgot that we are in Galus and better daven that we don't get reminders
ReplyDeleteWe'll put
DeletePolitics is about interests, not values. Values isn't something politics are known for......
DeleteVery disappointed that Herskowitz didn't win. Such deep corruption in this town. אין לנו על מי להשען אלא על אבינו שבשמים!
ReplyDeleteIt looks like the oilam chose the governor over their homes. I guess it is not so bad because when the state decides to split the $100 million a year we are borrowing, perhaps 50/50, and our home values theoretically collapse, maybe the taxes won't go up the whole 50% because the appraised values will go down. So a $600,000 home might go down to $450,000. That's not so bad after all, we showed achdus in electing a newcomer to the legislature rather than making our voices heard by Ruiz and Sarlo who already are responding to the court victory or showing support for the lawyers who have the governor scared for his career, and like in every election, we showed hakaros hatov for those who do favors, and not for those who put in ten years of hard work without pay to bring Lakewood billions. Maybe we won't get the billions. After all, Lakewood made it choise know to the governor that it is ok to block the litigation. They let the Senate Leadership know that they would rather have a deal than an outright change in state aid without any strings attached.
ReplyDeleteBut more likely the state will pass more like 70% of the $100 million to us, or more since by the time my case ends, perhaps in a loss, in two or three years, I mean, why should the governor settle now that the people of Lakewood made known their preferences, and we already know the BOE wants us to lose, we will owe $500 million, so we might actually have to increase the tax levy from $110 million to $250 million a year because our repayments will be $50 million a year. They already are $20 million and we have paid about $80 million that could have either stayed in our pockets or went to good use.
I'm sure we might get something in return, perhaps a $5 million voucher program in which 25% will be for kids already in private schools, so the $1.25 million might slightly mitigate the $150 million tax increase. But as I wrote, it won't be that much of a tax increase because our home values will collapse and it would be hard to impose on us more than a 3% school tax. So either way it is not so bad. If the tax rate skyrockets, our home values collapse and if they don't collapse, well then we can sell at the high number and get out of Dodge.
How would anyone in their right mind think that borrowing $100 million a year when the total tax levy is only $110 million can be sustained. The state just ran circles around us and we are the chumps to fall for. it After all, the governor made it clear to Weisberg, Heineman and the rest that he was opposed to a court order to force the state to pay just like the BOE is opposed to a court order. He wants to work it out politically, just like the BOE.
Aaron Lang
Aron,
DeleteIs there ever a time for reflection? Is there ever a time to think through what could have been done differently? Is your comment above, full of fire, brimstone and cursing any different than what you've been writing for the past several years?
How did that work out?
Is it time to rethink the strategy?
Did you see what happened to Paul Kessler? How has America responded? Is there any possibility that you have miscalculated in any way?
You can continue on the same war path and keep on cursing and besmirtching, or you can rethink your strategy. It's up to you.
Are you familiar with the gemara in Sanhedrin of when Alexander the [non]Great took over? The Egyptians came to sue us, the Africans invaded etc all with their claim to our money and land.
How was it dealt with? Perhaps it has a lesson for you as well. Look it up.
You are so right. I am (used to be) a smart person but always ran my mouth (my keyboard) and said (wrote) stupid things. I have been surrounded by chachamim my whole life and still cannot act like one. You are so right. I am so different than my father. He never said anything stupid.
DeleteI can't reflect. I can just tell others to run the show and promise to not run my mouth and turn everyone off until it is over. That is hard to do but I did it for two days.
Yes, Alexander the tyrant. He though he was such a great believer in freedom and a liberal, but he was just like the rest of them. Isn't the gemarah about the 400 years they owed us for the work? I don't have it before me. What do you mean about about that?
I think reflection tells me what I have always known. As much as I love politics, and got my degree in it, and took countless courses, even in foreign policy, it is not my talent. Its like Robert Moses, like Francis Perkins said, he loves the public but hates the people. I don't know if I would go that far. When Moses ran for governor, he was defeated by a larger margin than anyone in NY history.
DeleteLook at Professor Tractenberg. He never got involved in politics yet he has shaped NJ probably more than any man. Every single state (really 37) now have a cause of action to bring funding to local district, or all the districts, under their own constitutions. He regularly confers with Supreme Court justices ( not during litigation before them) and all the other important people BUT always acted with wisdom and stuck to what he did best, fighting for the kids in the courts. Without his guidance, I would have never got where we are. Same thing with Rabbi Levin. He ALWAYS was smart. Never got angry. Never desperate. Just as cool and balanced as a man can be. That is what it does to a man when he submerges himself in Torah. He becomes and emisdik person, a man of wisdom and in total control of himself.
your really encouraging! what kind of values are you lost anyways so why did you try? when people rob you day in day out, you scream ganev.
DeleteThis BOE loss is worse than losing a presidential election or any other election in anyone's life. I will just keep going but even if I win, without any political support, we will not get the full $100 million state aid. And of course, if I lose, like the governor and BOE want, WE will pay the full $100 million. I am not a sure loser, because I was a loser since I took a job with this ungrateful district, but really, how stupid can people be?! Is Ada Gonzalez, Raitzik and Greenwald so important that you would give up your homes for them? I guess so because they are the ones that got us into the huge debt. They are the ones who have opposed the lawsuit. Good riddance I guess.
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Arthur Lang.
DeleteYour problem is that hefkervelt is the wrong place to post. You need to get out there and campaign. Maybe the Lakewood Shopper can help you.
Maybe yes and maybe no, but it is so pashut. I am from Houston, the most powerful city in America. The place is full of Israeli agents because every single Middle Easterner goes to Texas to learn petroleum engineering and geology. And the Jewish people are just like the Gentiles, oil executives and chemical engineers or whatever. Here everyone is a peddler. Sorry, but that is how I see it. To us, in fourth or fifth generation America, it is all about professionalism, leadership, bottom line. There is no such thing as this nonsense what goes on in Lakewood, following marching orders to the polls and all the other Communism. Look at how the Israelis make us proud. My father used to say that the Israelis taught the world that the Jews will fight and work the land. And we always fought but most of time time were accepted. Although my friends were many Gentiles, if someone said anything about Jewish, we were ready to defend our honor. Look at Commodore or Captain Levy, the Jewish naval commander who bought Monticello. He once got in a duel for someone calling him a Jew. He ended floggin in the US navy Look at Chayim Solomon. America is just as Jewish as Christian. Our ancestors in America, going back to the 1600s built this country I have alway told Aaron Kotler that BMG is not European but true blue American. Cardozo, the greatest judge EVER (in the Gentile world, any lawyer will tell you that), was a Yid whose ancestors came in the 1650s. This last election, and what Rabbi Weisberg has forever told me about large Jewish communities, is just a European chanifa place. hakaros hatov is just chanifa. But that is how the stupid Eupropeans did it. I am not saying that America cannot turn bad, but Europe IS NOT A HISTORIC EXAMPLE of how to live in America. It is so odd that in the 1950s everyone in Lakewood was regular American. Why did that change? A L
DeleteDon't get me wrong, of course people hate Jewish people. It is the same argument I have with my brother in Houston. He think he has to be a regular white person and not tell who he is. But we are proud in Lakewood and don't hide it. I think people respect us for that. If not, then too bad. That is what is different than the American tradition, we show it openly. But the American tradition can be learned from AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW WE ACTED IN EUROPE. Stupid block voting! But, of course, despite my degree in government and all the US history I know, I am still not sure if Weisberg is wrong about voting as a block, but I am sure they made the wrong decision in betraying me. Sorry for being blunt. A L
DeleteNo man knows how he will act under fire yet the Israelis do the job. My ancestors in WWI, WWII, Korea, all did their duty. I am so tired of people who never fought that criticize with that pasuk about it is our strength. Stupidity. There has never been a soldier that though he survived because his own strength. At the very most, it was because Providence guided him, BUT never because his own strength. Yet we think we are so great because we say that we believe in Providence while we are not involved in the action and criticism a phantom that thinks he wins wars for his own strength. Where does this come from? I don't even think the baalei gaivas Patton and McArthur thought like that. But I constantly hear the pasuk. Stupid people criticizing warriors and heroes. I know that this is a chidusch but I was born an American and I cannot think like a European. Our people were boxers, corporate executive, scientists, politician, just the leaders of America in the 1920s and look at us in Lakewood today. A bunch of sophisticate peddlers like the immigrants in the nineteenth century. Why can't people be religious and still normal enough to think like an American, bottom line, patriotism, economy whatever it is that people think about when they make their own decisions. That is the American creed- individualism. And money does not come easy. You don't work for money. You work to contribute. You make parnasa.
DeleteI come from a different world. A L
Wow, suddenly Lang shows his true colors. Hates Lakewood (and all other frum areas work the same way) and all that it stands for. I'm glad voters showed him the door (I actually listened to Lang!) .
DeleteNo Arthur, European Jews DID show us the way. We work for parnassah but we also need shtadlanus. Yes, there were successful Jews who helped build this country- yet look at the antisemites all around us. The rallies, the social media vitriol.
Every secular institution gets government funding at one level or another but Lakewood is severely underserved. We have our interests and need representation. The passuk you just threw in the garbage is not ancient and not "irrelevant" in America. How dare you.
He doesn't hate Lakewood, he doesn't agree with the askonus method.
DeleteI have lived here for many years, and I have yet to see a single benefit from the askonus system in Lakewood. I am open to a new way, because so far, it hasn't worked.
OK I get the tochacha. But I don't think that pasuk applies to men who have bullets wizzing past them. That has nothing to do with strength. Maybe to people wielding a sword. But you are right about everything else you wrote.
DeleteThank you though for helping. I was never cut out for having any influence in Lakewood. The only time I do something good is when I shut my mouth and don't show my colors. I came to Lakewood to learn. Stayed insulated in Yeshiva for 16 years. The happiest time in my life. I never liked it outside the yeshiva although I had townspeople friends who thought like me. They are all gone. My very first day in 1985 Sprint told me that they cancelled my account because there was too much shtick in our zip code. I never like the way people thought. Maybe it was the right way, and my rabbanon that I trusted always said it was right to be the Lakewood way (not the stuff like with Sprint) but I never was able to conform. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. And in my case, even when I was 23, but that is over 100 in dog years.
As for shtadlanus, I already said that I don't know if Weisberg is wrong. He always told me the same thing. He also always said the same thing you are saying about the Europeans. I had a European grandmother, she came in 1900 and became a union organizer for the ILGWU but she hated Europe for killing her family and for her brothers saying the sidewalks in America are treif and not coming when she sent them tickets to come. My opinions are my own.
As for Anti-Semites, I haver never in my life seen America support Israel so much. I mean, two aircraft carrier battle groups guarding Israel? But my brother says that the historic support is because the Gentiles believe that their messiah will only come if the Jewish people are in Israel. I also always knew that they believed that at least in the South. But then they are going to want to convert us. That is why there is so much support with Conservatives. I don't know but that is what many people say and I have always thought.
These opinions, as dumb as they are, are my own and do not reflect anyone else.
When someone says about the Bnei Torah in Lakewood, "they are all Korach", he gets to be on the Mo'etzes. When an askan leshem shamayim calls out the wrong way to act, he 'hates Lakewood'.
DeleteFunny how things turn out.
I'll tell you an even better pshat in the pasuk. Its like the Athenians who at the height of their power held that might makes right. The pasuk tells us that winning is by the the Grace of G-d and we should not let it get to our heads and we should treat other countries and people with justice. But I still don't like the way "frum" people use the pasuk against the Israelis. They conduct their wars justly and do not push their weight around. There is no Israeli soldier that comes out of combat thinking that it was not G-d, but his own strength that protected him.
DeleteToday is a sad day for Lakewood.
ReplyDeleteWe could have announced with our votes that we support someone who works Leshem Shamayim, and voted for Lang's candidates. But we didn't, we chose the familiar Shelo Leshem Shamayim askanus, political favors, and empty promises.
A political campaign was launched, and we were pushed into voting for people who did not even respect us sufficiently to explain to us what they were offering. They did not show us any history of what they have done for us, they did not see a need to persuade us at all. Only with bullying and empty gestures.
We had a chance to be Chachamim, and we ended up being fools. Congratulations to Lakewood.
Attention all parents when your kids school calls you to pay up tuition give them assemblyman Avi Schnalls phone number
ReplyDeleteAGUDAH! STAY OUT OF LAKEWOOD YOU HAD NO BUSINESS STICKING YOUR NOSE IN OUR TOWN THE BNEI TORAH AND LAKEWOOD RESIDENTS DONT WANT YOU REPRESENTING THEM
ReplyDeletePossibility Unfortunately, but apparently, you are wrong
DeleteIts pretty clear the Bnei Torah of Lakewood want Agudah here. That's why they all followed the Gedolim of the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah of Agudas Yisroel.
DeleteYou speak for yourself. The Lakewood community seems to act in a way that disagrees with you.
DeleteThe moetzes has no shlita to tell lakewood residents how to vote it is unheard of and not their jurisdiction. Should rabbonim from Monsey or Brooklyn tell Lakewood how to vote in their district?
DeleteWhat has just happened was an abuse of power from the highest powerful forces of klal Yisrael beating down on a kehilla with threats and falsehoods about tuition relief
Using Roshei yeshiva to attack choshuveh bnei Torah who expressed concerns about their children's chinuch
the mighty forces stepping and bullying poor lakewood youngeleit.
Not to mention at a time when 1400 yidden were slaughtered and 250 held hostage as we speak.
The only nechama is that this is what happens before mashiach we are in golus from our own people
Trump just confirmed that Avi Schnall stole the election. It’s what the democrats do - he says.
ReplyDeleteavi schnall will dig a tunnel under lakewood lake and create a special HOV lane on the 9 for teslas only.
ReplyDeleteAdirei Hatorah lost its innocence it took over where the previous regime left off seems they now are trying to control not just lakewood but the youngeleit themselves it has become a political movement
ReplyDeleteSo we have created a lifetime politician, We're too busy and our memories are too short for him to care about any of the campaign promises..........
ReplyDeletesecular sites eg. NJ.com
ReplyDeleteThe GOP had momentum. With possibility of sweeping into Assembly majority.
It had though been recently stymied.. with this Schnall ploy
The Democrat puppeteers & Murphy long grasp frum Jews have influence all way out of proportion
They operated accordingly
Eh,who is the groisse leaders directing Who?
..Ben Dworkin, director of the Institute for Public Policy and Citizenship at Rowan University, said Democrats’ night was “stunning, not just a surprise.”
Sad
That's how they prefer it
Guess moshiach won't becoming at all soon
People, forgive my ranting last night. I should learn from B. Franklin to keep my probably wrong opinions to myself, instead of J. Adams. Both were great men but Franklin was much wiser.
ReplyDeleteWhat I mean by peddler is buying and selling. Buying pharmacies without going to pharmacy school. Running mosdos without being a teacher. Owning nursing homes without being a doctor. Everyone says that is capitalism, that even Shell Oil today is run by a businessman rather than a chemical engineer. Like I said, I am from a different world.
I am not l'shaim shmayim. I am just a regular person working for an organization for its bottom line hoping for a raise or promotion, to move up the company ladder. That is not l'shaim shmayim. That is just doing your job like everyone else.
Sad, compared to most others you're pretty decent
DeleteMark today in your calendar. Starting today, we no longer have to pay tuition.
ReplyDeletePeople you have to understand, please, that my ideas of Lakewood swing with my own fortune. When I lived hand to mouth in Yeshiva, I did not like outside the yeshiva. When I inherited from my parents and could live normally, I loved the town. I wrote then about how American Lakewood is, with so many volunteers, EMS, firemen, gemachs. It was the ideal community. Look at great men like Zeev. I never met anyone like him. I am again in not so good in parnasa and the bad attitude returns. I have lived here since 1985 and would have left if I really perpetually hated it. I know, as Shlomo HaMelech said, it is all temporary. As our fortunes change so do our attitudes. I know, or have confidence, that some day I will get a promotion, or perhaps a state job (the pension can transfer) get in my three years at a livable wage, and get my state pension. Great men, however, talmidei chachomin, have the right attitude at all times. That much I know.
ReplyDelete2034- did you go out and vote for Avi? He's the only one that could bring us tuition relief.....
ReplyDeleteWhat happened was this. All along, Balsam, Inzelbuch and Vershlaiser of the Igud opposed me. They want a legislative solution without a court order. I wanted to get the Vaad to take over because the cause was way above their pay grade. I later found out that they had a meeting, this was for me getting a promotion, and Schnall was also opposed. He said that my case interferes with his lobbying and he also wanted apolitical rather than judicial solution. There was some talk about getting me a do-nothing job but I said that I wanted something meaningful. I want a part in the goyish zachin, teaching and avdminstrating the public schools where I work, and let Inzelbuch take care of the mosdos. We went to Rav Malkiel to try to get the BOE from renewing the lawyer's contract just for a month to pressure him, but rather than listen to him, the BOE president just did not show up at the BOE meeting. He was too scared. He was my student in Belmar and the Rosh Yeshiva of the school called him up to complain about him not helping me.
ReplyDeleteAt the same time, the state was trying all kinds of tricks to delay complying with the court order and we were trying to get the matter into the court of public opinion. Some northern NJ papers published op-eds. I determined that since every elected official in Lakewood was opposed, the governor had little pressure to move things along. I tried to work up pubic support from the bottom up. If the BOE would be on our side, maybe the township and legislative delegation would also support us. The BOE can cause real damage since their lawyer appears in court and wrote briefs in the matter. If we could change the BOE, the lawyer would have to change his position. I figured that moving up the ladder was not as important (and anyway would not happen) as getting the state to settle, I decided run my own candidates. I knew that if they won I would not be able to move up because of the appearance of impropriety.
We met with Weisberg, formed a strategy, and I recruited candidates. He now says, and its probably right, that he would have advised against it. We then, at the meeting, agreed that I would be able to address the full Vaad. I knew they would be on my side because who cares about the three or four mentioned people that opposed us, they were not as important as the whole future of Lakewood. My game plan was to convince the Vaad, and I had the votes, to take back charge of the BOE which they lost in 2012. I knew I would have a majority of the Vaad. As it turned out, the Vaad did not meet with its full membership and voted (if they voted at all) against the candidates. I could not believe that they would meet without allowing me to speak with them. When I found out what happened, it all made sense. I was told that the governor gave them a shakedown about his opposition to the matter. Had they informed me, I would have advised to play hardball and settle for $100 million a year, cancellation of debt, and no strings attached. It would save the governor's career because he cannot afford to lose in the matter. Instead they made some deal that I am not privy to. It probably had to due with legislative seat, but that is so small compared to the matter at hand. We already have the attention of the top level of all three branches of government and yet we were told that we need a seat at the table. We owned the table, why would we need a seat?
So there you have it. I never liked the Lakewood system of achdus, hakaros hatov, and the European way of doing things. If people could just make up their own minds, this would have been a no-brainer. But we get worse every year, less American and more foreign. A L
Well put
DeleteIf it's comfortable for the oliam as society declines
just like Europe was
we probably should prepare to get out soon
Yes, it is true that Americans also make deals in cigar smoke filled (or at least used to) back rooms, but it is something quite different when the people rank and file get no say whatsoever. The agreements of the unions, political bosses, are sent back to their membership and constituents. People vote for their union presidents. Even in NJ, one of the most boss-dominated states, you still have an open membership, but most importantly, there is a clear group of person that you can identify as the person to win over. Here in Lakewood, everything is secret, no one knows who is in control so even if you found the holy grail (excuse my goyish) of the public welfare, there is no address to send your ideas. Even the nominal leader, the Rosh Yeshiva, of course you can access him, but as he told me, he was not at liberty to say what the other side told him. So there is no place to get heard out, confront your detractors, and win the day. That is so European, all the secrecy, lack of transparency, and simply, no checks and balances. And this is what I mean by the European mentality. Also of course, the idea that you just open a business without real experience getting your hands calloused and working your way from bottom to the top by putting in your years, and rely upon the education and licenses of others. That is foreign as can be in my not so smart opinion.
ReplyDeleteFrom all these these comments I made, you can see why the earlier commentator was so right when he said he was glad that Lakewood showed me the door and that I showed my true colors. That was the whole point of getting involved in the election. I need OTHER PEOPLE to do the decision making, to work out the details. I can only advise. I do not think like the people of Lakewood. The problem is that they are not even letting me advise but allowing their BOE to actually oppose. How am I supposed to advocate this or that part of the formula should change, this is how to do transportation and special education for the oilam, chapter 192, 193, Title I, and whatever. I can just say what the law is BUT I don't have a clue as to wants and aspirations of the stakeholders. I know America well but not Lakewood. A gadol once said when I offended someone not in yeshiva, and it of course had something to do with American stuff, "Torah (choshen mishpat, on the rare occasion I got it right) we learn from him, Hashkafa, never." The second thing is for sure true, not at all the first, he knew I was listening so he wanted to be nice, but still I was not happy and a shtickle insulted that he said that to someone not in yeshiva. But this whole chain reminds me of that and it is the very reason why I cannot be in our politics, but MUST be allowed to advise and figure things out to everyone's interest, how to getthe most bang for the buck so to speak, explain when they are being played as chumps, when I know whatever the interest is and what kind of deal they are making (and it has to be in the public interest). That is what lawyers are best at, advocacy and settlement.
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