Monday, June 27, 2022

Monday June 27 News Updates Lakewood

Weather Scattered thunderstorms this morning, then mostly cloudy during the afternoon with heavy thunderstorms becoming likely. Storms may contain strong gusty winds. High 81F. Chance of rain 100%.

- Today in Trenton - NJ State Child Tax Credit  passed in the Senate & Assembly Budget Committees providing families with a tax credit worth up to $500 for each child under age six for households earning up to $80,000 in income. For a taxpayer with New Jersey  taxable income of $30,000 or less, the credit amount shall be $500 for each child. For a taxpayer with New Jersey taxable income of  more than $30,000 but less than $80,000 the credit amount shall be  $500 reduced by $10 for every $1,000 of income that the taxpayer’s  taxable income exceeds $30,000. The income limit set forth in this section shall apply to taxpayers of any filing status.

- NWS: Flood advisory until 4:00 pm Minor flooding in low-lying and poor drainage areas.. Between 1 and 2 inches of rain have fallen.in Lakewood, Howell,, Roosevelt, Freewood Acres, and Adelphia.

- GOP Minority Republican Leader Kevin Mccarthy paid a visit to the Bais Sholom/Bais Aaron B"M yesterday during his visit to Lakewood. Hespoke to some youngeleit and inquired about which subjects they are studying.

-Torah Umesorah hosted a weekend retreat for rebbeim in Stamford, CT emphasizing that each child is precious, rebbeim should not have pets or show favoritism and how they are doing Hashem's work.. 

- OCHD updated covid cases 6/8/22 - 6/22/22
- 59 new covid cases in Lakewood totals 25184/376
- 79 newcovid cases in Jackson totals 13708/147
- 120 new covid cases+3 deaths in Toms River totals 23285/455

- A shopping mall in Kremenchuk, Ukraine, was hit by missiles, injuring up to 1,000 people.

- Possible school lunch boxes for those spending the summer in the Catskills register Here at Fallsburg Meals

- Victory at the Supreme Court for religious freedom The Supreme court sides with a high school football coach in a First Amendment case about prayer at the 50-yard-line. In a 6-3 ruling, SCOTUS says the public school district violated the coach's free speech and free exercise rights when it barred him from praying on the field after games.

- The Lakewood Board of Education will hold a "Virtual" Nonpublic Consultation Meeting for Nonpublic School Administrators, Parents/Guardians & Staff today June 27, 2022 at 1:00 p.m. The meeting will be accessible via Zoom  Questions can be emailed to: npconsultation@lakewoodpiners.org. To participate by phone, dial 732-839-3003 ID 776382-8466#

- First day of girls camp expect carpool and bus traffic.

- School seeks approval from Planning board for banquet hall outside Westgate by adding 32 parking spots listed as correspondence for July 12 meeting more on FAA

-  קומו ונעלה ציון kiryas Lakewood Maaleh Amos update  very few 5 bedroom units available. Boys Girls Elementary and high schools will be opening. Harav Dovid Koleditsky shlita will serve as Rosh Yeshivas Migdal Eder in the new kiryah. Rabbi Shalom Storch chinuch educational advisor. Harav Shlomo Alon shlita Rosh kollel kodshim kiryas Lakewood Maale Amos. Email registerkumu@gmail.com 

- Video, Photos: Minority leader McCarthy visits Lakewood Matzav

Nekadesh:  stories haven't stopped flooding our offices... Women who've deleted apps, removed themselves from chats, women who've traded in their smartphones for basic models... Mi Ke'amcha Yisroel!

- Organizers of petition to stop mosdos and businesses from advertising on frum news websites and social media have gathered thousands of signatures and say they have permission from roshei yeshiva.

- Sanz Rebbe and his Brother in law Gaavad Sanz met for the first time in 20 years.

OU Statement in SCOTUS overturning Roe V. Wade: The Orthodox Union is unable to either mourn or celebrate the U.S. Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v Wade. We cannot support absolute bans on abortion—at any time point in a pregnancy—that would not allow access to abortion in lifesaving situations. Similarly, we cannot support legislation that does not limit abortion to situations in which medical (including mental health) professionals affirm that carrying the pregnancy to term poses real risk to the life of the mother. As people of faith, we see life as a precious gift granted to us and maintained within us by God. Jewish law places paramount value on choosing life and

mandates—not as a right but as a responsibility—safeguarding our own lives and the lives of others by behaving in a healthy and secure manner, doing everything in our power to save lives, and refraining from endangering others. This concern for even potential life extends to the unborn fetus and to the terminally ill. The “right to choose” (as well as the “right to die”)—are thus completely at odds with our religious and halachic values. Legislation and court rulings that enshrine such rights concern us deeply on a societal level.

44 comments:

  1. Wow. There's more shtick going on at the planning board.

    How can a 3300 square foot simcha hall (SP 2122) get approvals without the neighborhood even being told about it, and only finding out after it's too late? Do the owners really think that just 74 parking spaces will be enough? Are they nuts? There are halls that are much smaller and with more spaces, and it's still not enough. Old Whitesville Road has already been turned into a constant mess by this school due to their cars parking illegally everywhere on the street. Drake Rd is also suffering.

    As it is, the schools should already be required to expand their off-street parking.
    But to quietly sneak a massive Hall into the area without providing Notice and denying the public the right to at least have their concerns heard, is disgusting! It's a real slap in the face to their neighbors and it should not be allowed.

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  2. Any Moisad that won't advertise online is also prohibited from running any type of charity or rayze it campaign.

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  3. What if the woman is r-ped? Even the Yaavitz allows a woman to get an abortion just for getting expecting when not married, kol shekein if she is r-ped. Anyway, this is a matter for the states, not for Congress to make one law for all the different states, each population with its own shitas about the matter. It's this nationalizing of everything since the New Deal that is going to rip this country apart. Why can't people in each state live the way they want to?

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    1. As has already been stated endlessly,Rape is an exception that every single State will be giving -which by the way was the case generally back before roe v Wade

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    2. Halachos for yisroel and ben noach differ

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    3. "people in each state live the way they want to?"

      That was the claim The South made back in the 1850s
      "A house divided against itself cannot stand "
      how did that work out

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    4. As usual, chef Cohen is wrong. Arkansas for example doesn't allow exceptions for cases of oines, and it's not the only one.

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    5. Lu Yitzu'ir

      Rabbi J. David Bleich
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      The Gemara debates the moment of ensoulment. The question has profound ontological implications but no bearing whatsoever upon the halakhic status of the fetus. True, over a period of centuries, halakhic decisors have disagreed with regard to that matter. But Rambam, Noda bi-Yehuda, R. Chaim Soloveichik and R. Moshe Feinstein (and, at least in one pronouncement, the Israeli Chief Rabbinate as well) – and that list is far from exhaustive – unequivocally found feticide to be a non-capital form of homicide justifiable only if the fetus itself poses a threat to the mother. Rabbi Feinstein was an extremely pleasant, sweet, mild-mannered and tolerant person. Yet, when confronted by a much more permissive responsum of a respected rabbinic figure he did not hesitate to write in response, “May his Master forgive him.”

      As far as non-Jews are concerned, there is not even a scintilla of controversy. Abortion is an even more grievous offense under the provisions of the Noachide Code. For non-Jews, abortion is a capital offense. Is it conceivable that Jews and Jewish organizations now criticize the Supreme Court for acknowledging that there is no right to abortion on demand? Jews are charged to serve as a beacon unto the nations, not to urge and abet transgression of the Seven Commandments of the sons of Noah. Elsewhere, I have marshalled sources demonstrating that falsification of the Sinaitic tradition is tantamount to idolatry.
      ..The argument that the lives of Jewish women will be endangered by rejection of Roe v. Wade is specious – and fully known to be so by those who advance it. Pregnant women had no constitutional difficulties in procuring medical abortions before Roe v. Wade and will face no constitutional barrier after its repeal. True, it is possible, albeit unlikely, that some few states might enact a blanket prohibition against abortion; it is even more unlikely that such a prohibition would survive constitutional challenge.

      Craven political correctness is no defense for the indefensible. We should not seek to curry favor with, or the approbation of, the so-called intelligentsia. I daresay that no Jewish woman died as a result of legal restraints prior to Roe v. Wade. No Jewish woman is likely to die in the wake of its repeal. Abortion for medical need will continue to be available in most, and probably all, jurisdictions. If any lives are lost it will be because of inability to afford the expense of travel, not because of constitutional impediment.

      What should the Jewish response be? It should be two-fold. One, the establishment of a fund to defray the cost of travel to a jurisdiction in which a life-threatening pregnancy can be terminated, such a stipend to be limited to women who produce a statement signed by a recognized posek attesting to the halakhic propriety of the procedure. Two, a second, far larger fund to provide for care of pregnant women who carry their babies to term but feel compelled to surrender them for adoption.

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    6. That's wonderful for those who follow R' Bleich. But of course his is not the only (or perhaps even dominant) view in Orthodoxy.

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  4. In contrast to OU contentions -

    Many leading Modern Orthodox Rabbis and Organizations were part of the original pro-life movement fighting in response against the 1970 NY abortion law, and for legislative vote repealing it two years later.(Vetoed by Gov.Rockefeller)

    In 1970 when NY was voting in favor of abortion, Nash Kestenbaum, then president of Young Israel , personally lobbied against the pro abortion law. Right after the law was passed, Rabbi Joseph Karasick,president of the OU, and Rabbi Bernard L. Berzon, president of the Rabbinical Council of America, issued a statement jointly stating "In Judaism, the life of an unborn child is sacred, and only when It is a threat to the mother can the moral issue of abortion be resolved. For each person to decide arbitrarily, on the basis of economics or convenience, whether a fetus is to survive is literally for man to play God and is religiously blasphemous and socially destructive."

    In 1972 the RCA's policy‐making executive board of 80 members unanimously urged repealing of NY's abortion legalization law . These were Rabbis who had been practicing when abortion had been banned and, based on their actual experience with abortion bans, did not share contemporary panic over the potential that abortion ban would limit halachically acceptable abortions.

    Rav Moshe Feinstein, conducted himself in accordance with that view. In 1970 as referenced earlier, New York State became the very first state to legalize abortion [in a move that led to Roe v. Wade 3 years later]. In 1972 New York State Legislature voted to repeal this new liberalized abortion law, which was subsequently vetoed by Governor Nelson Rockefeller. During the row to repeal it , Rav Moshe Feinstein personally called up the Lower East Side State Senator Paul Bookson, who had voted for the 1970 abortion law, and told him to switch and vote to repeal the law.

    Furthermore in the late 1980's, when it appeared that Roe might then be overturned, and hundreds of thousands of people protested to preserve abortion- Rav Aaron Soloveichik referred to those protesters as "pagans" .

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  5. Why don’t they let building shuls in WG?

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    1. Bring it to the planning board! Who doesn't allow shuls? Are you living in the past and stuck there?

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  6. it is good that people get their halachick knowledge from the web. The Yavitz is a daas yochid.

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    1. Please do us all a favor and do not offer any girl who unfortunately was a victim of incest any advice
      Delicate questions require much greater deliberations than what u are willing to tolerate

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    2. How about the Maharit? Chavos Yair? Tzitz Eliezer? That's quite a few yechidim you got there.

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    3. Emotional correctness and political correctness define the religion of your ilk. Got it.
      Anyone with an agenda will find something to pull out of context. In matter of fact against the very context and general intent

      How about Agunos?

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    4. What about them? Would you like to tell us what they say? The whole context

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    5. This is very old reid; if you had any interest in the sugya I assume you'd be familiar with the many views that abortion is NOT retzichah. If you need a basic primer, look at the Tzitz Eliezer vol. 14 siman 100 and look up all the sources he cites. And if that's too hard, you can look at the Minchas Asher on Shemos siman beis for an even simpler introduction.

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    6. Ahh under influence of left leaning modox(bloggers)

      1) Decide what conclusion you want to arrive at. This will often be based on predicting what the Jewish ethical response must be in a world that has changed so significantly from the early legal texts of Judaism.
      2) Find a few gemaros that deal with the issue. If they don’t agree with your conclusion, either ignore them, or find some understanding of each counterexample which will make it irrelevant to our times. This can be done by finding a single Rishon whose explanation of the gemara makes it possible to argue that the Talmud simply would not have said the same thing today. It doesn’t matter if that Rishon is outweighed by a huge number of contradictory opinions.
      3) Alternatively, show why such thinking is simply at odds with contemporary insight and reasonableness, and must be discarded as foreign to the spirit of Jewish law and its inherent resiliency and flexibility.
      4) Find a medrash as a springboard to show how quintessentially Jewish, how much in the spirit of Jewish law your conclusion is.
      5) Accept original argument.
      6)Dismiss your Opposition

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  7. I don’t know everyone always says that in WG you can’t build a shul

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    1. They rabble rouse. It ain't the truth.

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    2. Depends who you are and how well connected you are

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    3. If it “ain’t the truth”, how come that shul is still in its original basement plus another basement, using a converted garage AND a large upstairs portion of the first building, plotting at the seems????

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    4. Because they're not able to pay for a lawyer.

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  8. There’s some kind of mafia there that doesn’t allow others to build a shul. Old politics, everyone moved on.

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  9. Why are people so nasty on here
    Why can’t points be made in a civil manner
    There’s nothing wrong with healthy discourse
    Ad hominem attacks, condescension and sarcasm does not help further the conversation and brings down the level of conversation
    Aside from being aggressive, disagreeable and hurtful

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  10. It’s only certain people who are nasty and aggressive. Unfortunately they are the bored ones and have a lot of time to post comments on blogs.

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  11. Don't they have a morning after pill for ra-p victims?!

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  12. To posit that abortion is somehow permitted, one must completely reject the psak of Rav Moshe as illegitimate ?

    We have rules of psak.
    In cases of pikuach nefesh and murder, we are adjured to follow the viewpoint of the rabbi who rules in favor of life (in favor of saving a life and not ending it), even if it is one rabbinical personage over 10 greater rabbis, provided the rabbi's viewpoint is considered legitimate.That is on the assumption the opinions are of equal weight roughly -which with regards to abortion issues is dubious


    Also, the writer chose to completely ignore that Rav Joseph B. Soloveitchik
    was concerned for the Rambam's view that abortion is murder and paskened accordingly

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    1. We are absolutely not bound necessarily to pasken like R' Moshe. L'hadam. Of course he was probably/perhaps the greatest authority of his day. That doesn't mean that his opinion is always followed. Plenty of morei horaah nowadays (perhaps not in yeshivishe circles - I'm not sure) pasken like the Tzitz Eliezer. This is not even novel. Look at the history of halachah and you'll see innumerable examples of pesakim of the giants being pushed aside by contrary consensus.

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    2. The centrist bloggers of the moment fan favorite :Tzitz
      Eliezer

      Who will it be next week?
      Anyone in North America virtually even heard of him before 15-18 years ago?
      Go ahead without googling - could you quote him for anything else?

      The gemara flat out has a term for those who cherry pick shitas: Rasha

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    3. Most people prefer to hide their ignorance but you choose to proudly pronounce it. To each his own.
      1. Plenty of people weren't as ignorant as you of the major poskim twenty plus years ago.
      2. More importantly, the Tzitz Eliezer is not merely giving his own view. As is his derech (which of course you never heard of) he marshals numerous sources to support himself. Setting aside the Tzitz Eliezer himself, there are plenty of Acharonim on his side.

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    4. Nobody considered the Tzitz Eliezer to be a major posek. Even dati leumi considered him mid-level
      And even he didn't allow abortion on demand as you guys wish to imply eg Tay Sacs

      While the previous is really irrelevant because if it wouldn't be him, you would find someone else
      IRRC the Lubavitcher Rebbe was a public advocate of banning abortion completely

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  13. How do you plot at the seems?

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  14. That’s not because they don’t allow shuls in WG per se there was some kind of legal issue with the building. Besides the reason they are in two basements is because it’s two totally separate kehillos. They wouldn’t daven together if they had one big shul either.

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  15. And they aren’t in a converted garage, it was never a garage. The house was built that way intentionally, not because anyone stopped them from building a shul.

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    1. It actually was a garage at first. Just to correct the facts!

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  16. It wasn’t but it doesn’t matter anyway because the homeowner chose to convert it. It wasn’t converted because their dream shul was nixed.

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    1. Are you spewing just for the sake of it?

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  17. No just setting the record straight for those complaining that shuls can’t be built in WG. That’s simply not true except that you will have a hard time finding space to build one but otherwise it’s fine to build.

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    1. If you know the right people and the right lawyers it’s not a problem.

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  18. That’s nothing new. To get permits approved you need connections.

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