Mixed information on Covid vaccine for younger orthodox women for fears of infertility and pregnancy related issues.
JTA-For much of the last year, the young mothers of Lakewood, New Jersey, have experienced the pandemic as much as a nuisance as a matter of life and death. That’s not to say the community hasn’t experienced its share of outbreaks; it has. Or that families haven’t lost loved ones; they have. But to hear the young mothers of the large Orthodox community tell it, the crisis part of the pandemic had passed. Most people recovered from the virus, they thought, and only the elderly and high-risk needed to continue staying home. And to watch the Instagram videos of the frequent indoor weddings held in the town, where few if any guests wear masks, the dark days of last March have nearly been forgotten.
To many, a lockdown that kept the town’s thousands of yeshiva students home from the local Beis Medrash Gevoha, the largest yeshiva outside of Israel, for months on end was not a price they were willing to pay. With children and young people at relatively low risk of death or serious illness from COVID, keeping kids home from school seemed to many to be more harmful than the virus itself.
That has changed in recent weeks, as news of the death of a 37-year-old woman understood to be previously healthy swept through WhatsApp groups at the same time that misinformation took hold about the new coronavirus vaccines potentially threatening fertility. In a community where childbearing and mothering are marks of status among women, the two developments brought the pandemic’s seriousness home for many of the town’s young mothers.
Now, as physicians there and across the Orthodox world mount a campaign to convince women to get vaccinated when they’re eligible and to be more careful if they’re not, some mothers in Lakewood are reconsidering their families’ approach to COVID safety. “These stories are not making us any less concerned to say the least,” said one 30-year-old Lakewood resident who is pregnant. She had been looking forward to getting the coronavirus vaccine until her own COVID-19 test came back positive last week, making her ineligible for the time being.
Lakewood, with a haredi Orthodox community that makes up more than half the town’s population of over 100,000, is by far New Jersey’s most fertile town. In 2015, it recorded 45 live births per 1,000 residents — a rate more than four times the state’s average, and among the highest in the world. So when rumors started circulating about the effect of the soon-to-arrive COVID-19 vaccines on fertility, locals were alarmed. The rumors began right around the time New Jersey began offering vaccines, and they took root on Instagram and WhatsApp, the social network and messaging platform that are popular among Orthodox women.
In one WhatsApp group organized by Orthodox Jews to discuss COVID, a woman said she had been thinking of moving to Israel but was reconsidering after the mayor of the Israeli city of Lod said he would require parents to be vaccinated before their children could come to school. In another group, women compared Israel’s recommendation that pregnant women get the vaccine to Nazi doctors’ torture of Jews. “Disgusting!! They are really making experimentation on Jews!!” one woman wrote.
Several people shared information about a drug cocktail created by a Hasidic doctor, Vladimir Zelenko, that Donald Trump touted but was later found to be ineffective and even harmful in some cases. Someone else shared a video of Zelenko in which he said that young, healthy people do not need to take the vaccine. He suggested taking zinc to inhibit “viral replication” and said “in my medical opinion, no one needs the vaccine.” In early January, Michal Weinstein, an Orthodox Instagram influencer who lives on Long Island and has over 21,000 followers, posted an Instagram livestream of Dr. Lawrence Palevsky, a pediatrician and well-known anti-vaxxer who spoke at a 2019 symposium of anti-vaccine activists that was attended by hundreds of haredi Orthodox Jews in Monsey, New York. In the video, Palevsky suggested that the vaccines were a profit move by drug companies — and that they could contribute to infertility..........
In Lakewood, a health clinic called CHEMED raised the alarm on COVID cases among younger women and said some of the cases were resulting in miscarriages. “Unlike at the beginning of the pandemic, when mostly the elderly and males were at risk, we are now seeing several hospitalizations of women in the 35-45 year old range, “regardless of whether or not you have previously had Covid.” Pregnant women have been eligible to get the vaccine in New Jersey since Jan. 15 and will be eligible in New York beginning Feb. 15th. read full report at JTA
How sad that the עם חכם ונבון falls for bunkum like that.
ReplyDeleteCovid19 can affect fertility, as it has caused record levels of stillborn babies since it's start.
The vaccine does not have the virus in it, the researchers cannot pinpoint any mechanism that would have this vaccine cause fertility issues.
But people believe rumors over researched facts, causing irreparable damage to themselves and their families.
Because they haven't pinpointed a connection doesnt mean it doesn't exist. If it's powerful enough to block a deadly virus, it's obviously doing something in the body. People would rather wait and see before making a decision. We are smart enough to know that we aren't being told the whole truth and we have seen much politics at play.
DeleteSpare us your crocodile tears, " how sad, am chocohom... baw wahaa"...CUT IT OUT! You're not sad, you're hell bent on an agenda.
DeleteEven the corrupt WHO had the decency to recommend that pregnant women should not vaccinate (of course they walked it back, as thwy always do, under political pressure).
That claim is absolutely ludicrous.
DeleteThe world has been taken over by meat boards, every fancy simcha has meat boards. Nobody has pinpointed the connection between meat boards and inane comments on the internet. Nobody even researched it (unlike the vaccine and infertility, which was researched). Stop eating from meatboards until the issue is resolved. You know you are not getting told the whole truth.
Everything you do has an effect on your body. The idea that people should invent some side effect for no reason stands against Seichel, Torah and plain humanity.
DeleteWait and see - How will they see? They will read someone's twitter feed? Wait till some yenta in the bungalow colony pontificates, in a nasalized voice, about her neighbor's sister in law's goyte's upstairs tenant, who thought the cough that they heard as they were walking past someone's apartment was connected to the nurse that administered a vaccine a week before?
They have no way of evaluating the data, yet pat themselves piously on the back for 'waiting and seeing'.
And the cabbages sprouting everywhere is very suspicious
DeleteThere is no data in regards to infertility, it's too new. Is it so bad to wait?
DeleteThe sad part is that even if there is a connection the data will be hidden. This is not conspiracy, this is fact. Painting my opinion as non mainstream doesn't make it factually so.
There is no data regarding your typing on this site and the possibility of your ears spontaneously falling off. Why risk it?
DeleteThere is no reason to believe that there are ANY fertility issues connected to this vaccine. There is no לידת הספק (excuse the pun) here, how can people just invent חששות out of thin air?
You haven't addressed the facts and resort to name calling and mocking. Are we are the called the party of the stupid. How sad.
DeleteWhat facts?
DeleteReb Chayim Shlit’a says all women should take the vaccine
ReplyDeleteאיבה is stronger than תפילה and Torah איבה is stronger than a recorded conversation with any godol.
DeleteSo where can I get the vaccine? Chemed is out
ReplyDeleteEach night Cheaed is stuck with a few xtra vaccines that must be used or thrown out if you put yourself on the waiting list and are ready to drop everything when you get the call you may be able to receive the shot though according to eligibility requirements you would normally need to wait for it
ReplyDeletethe joke is the denial as to how political the antivax movement is. Marketing themselves as speaking truth to power was genius
ReplyDeleteI don't think it is genius. I think they stumbled accidentally onto a winning formula. Get ignorant people to paper over their foolishness with some long words, gibberish statistics and religious double speak, and an ideology is born!
DeleteThe money behind them, as well as the nefarious motives of many of their 'doctors' they keep on call, is truly scary. Obscure small town doctors are suddenly the 'celebrated' Susan Humphries, and no actual results need to be shown to be a medical researcher. Leidigeyers like Del Bigtree are the heroes of society, why would they not join that movement?
Big Vitamin and Big Alternative Medicine have convinced them that the 'other' guy is only in it for the money, whereas the homeopathic industry represents the altruists of the world.
I don't think there is anything to be done for these lost cases.
Unless you have kids already don’t take the vaccine !!
ReplyDeleteWho are you going to blame when you die childless ??
Don’t be so stupid to take a rushed vaccine !
The vaccine crisis will be blamed for everything
DeleteThe virus has a bigger chance of causing infertility how come we don't hear anyone saying be careful not to get it
ReplyDeleteMaybe everyone got it already.
Deletepeople dying daily
DeleteOf course we can't know the potential long term effects of this vaccine because it hasn't been around long enough.
ReplyDeleteBut why the panic about fertility? Maybe we should be worried the shot will make you grow horns. After all, how do you know it doesn't?
there are reports in israel of one guy winning 10 million dollars on the lottery two days after taking the vaccine!!!
ReplyDeleteMight it be connected?
why does anyone think they should be more scared about long term effects of the vaccine than long term effects of the virus itself?
ReplyDeletea bacur aged 36 in my neighborhood in yerushalayim was niftar today from corona. he told people he didnt want to vaccinate because it might make him infertile. HaShem yikom domo
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