Sunday, October 24, 2021

NJ: Why Both Murphy and Ciattarelli Are Campaigning in Lakewood

"Singer, who represents Lakewood, predicted the Orthodox voters will once again reject the Vaad’s advice.“I think family values will win the day,” he said

But in Lakewood there are 30,000 or so residents who are true swing voters. They can go for or against a candidate and they turn out at a higher-than-average rate. That is the rarest and most valuable type of voter out a politician can hope to find. Expect both Murphy and Ciattarelli to keep looking hard for them till a week from Tuesday

 NJ.com -  In case you’re wondering why Jack Ciattarelli spent all of Thursday campaigning in one town, state Senator Bob Singer has the answer: “Donald Trump carried Ocean County by 100,000 votes last year and 25,000 of those votes were from Lakewood,” Singer told me.

The Donald could thank the Vaad for that.

Few people outside Lakewood know what the Vaad is, but it’s probably the single most powerful electoral force in any city or town in the state. It’s an 11-member council of elders that assesses political candidates and makes recommendations for the Hasidic community in the fastest growing municipality in the state.

In not-so-distant memory Lakewood was a largely rural township. The high school’s athletic teams are still called the Piners.

Now it’s got 130,000 residents – and growing.

Last year, Republican Trump got the Vaad’s endorsement.

But this year the endorsement went to Democrat Gov. Phil Murphy in his race for re-election.

If Murphy were to win Lakewood by a margin similar to Trump’s, that would preclude any chances of an upset victory for his Republican opponent.

That’s why Murphy made a campaign stop in Lakewood the day before Ciattarell did.

But this year is shaping up more like 2009 than 2020, Singer told me.

That was the year that Murphy’s fellow Goldman Sachs alumnus, Jon Corzine, won the backing of the Vaad but still lost Lakewood. Republican Chris Christie piled up a 4,500-vote margin in Lakewood on his way to landslide victories in Ocean and neighboring Monmouth counties that offset Corzine’s victories in key Democratic strongholds.

Singer, who represents Lakewood, predicted the Orthodox voters will once again reject the Vaad’s advice.

“I think family values will win the day,” he said.

Ciattarelli, who was wearing a yarmulke, certainly acted that way as he worked the crowds at campaign stops that included a synagogue, a kosher bagel shop and a kosher restaurant.

The former assemblyman from Somerset County hammered on the administration’s plan for extended .... education among grammar-school students as well as mask and vaccine mandates.

“A lot of people object to mandates,” one member of the Hasidic community told me.

Ciattarelli also hit on bread-and butter issues such as the traffic jams caused by all that recent growth.

“My first priority is improving Route 9 from Lakewood to Toms River,” he said. “That’s the No. 1 project in my transportation plan.”

But he hit the hardest on school choice. The posters held up by his backers read, “Fix the tuition crisis with funding reform, school choice, and vouchers,”

Murphy has been a staunch opponent of vouchers but has helped the community in many other ways, Singer said.

Those familiar with the Vaad’s reasoning say they expect Murphy to win re-election and therefore don’t want to risk alienating him going into his second term.

Singer, who was first elected to the Legislature back in the 1980s, recalled that Corzine had a disadvantage in 2009 that Murphy doesn’t have.

“There was a big issue that year and it was (same-gender) marriage,” Singer said. “Corzine could have vetoed it but he didn’t.”

There’s no single issue like that this year, Singer said. But Murphy’s liberal views on social issues will keep him from running up the margins usually associated with the Vaad’s endorsement, he predicted.

Larry Bathgate, a leading fund-raiser for Republicans who has a law practice in Lakewood, recalled that another issue that sunk Corzine in 2009 was his scheme for bonding against toll revenues, which alienated Garden State Parkway commuters.

But the dynamic this year is the same as in 2009, he said. He recalled that in 2009 he got a phone call from the leader of a group of rabbis not affiliated with the Vaad. They were mostly the founders of private schools and they wanted to meet with Christie, he said.

He arranged the meeting. The result was that the rabbis brought the issue to the top Orthodox rabbi in Jerusalem.

“The senior guy in Jerusalem put out an edict,” he recalled. “They had three choices. They could not vote. They could follow the recommendations of the Vaad. Or they could vote their consciences.”

Enough took advantage of Option 3 to turn a looming defeat to victory for the Republican.

This time around the fight for the Lakewood vote promises to be the most interesting struggle in the state. Other parts of the state tend to be solidly Republican or solidly Democrat. The problem for each party is getting out the vote.

But in Lakewood there are 30,000 or so residents who are true swing voters. They can go for or against a candidate and they turn out at a higher-than-average rate.

That is the rarest and most valuable type of voter out a politician can hope to find.

Expect both Murphy and Ciattarelli to keep looking hard for them till a in0


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35 comments:

  1. The republicans love twisting politics to become single-issue races. Even when they are clearly not so.
    Murphy is the farthest thing from a radical liberal possible. But the mendacious tactics of the right would have you believe that he is AOC's mentor.

    Politics is compromise. If you cannot understand that, you should not enter the field at all. Gedolei Yisroel all across the spectrum instructed people to vote in elections, in pre-war Europe and post-state Israel. They knew that they would have to compromise and they knew that they had no choice. The ideologues are the true threats. We can handle corrupt politicians, we have done so for hundreds of years. We cannot handle ideologues.

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    1. question is where does he really stand on hard liberal issues... Does he ant to turn NJ in the No Bail insanity that NY is dealing with now? This is a real issue!

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    2. I don't know what NJ's plans are. I have seen no reason to believe that Murphy is a radical.

      The bail reform law requires a broader vision and insight.
      It was never a question that in the short term, no cash bail would place criminals on the streets. But there was a broader issue at hand, which will eventually lower crime. Significantly. Imagine a 17 year old arrested for a crime, for which he is eventually acquitted. If he needs to post cash that he doesn't have, his schooling is over, he has spent months of his formative years with hardened criminals and the default trajectory of his life is crime. If he is freed between arrest and trial, he can finish his schooling and keep away from criminals. That is why cash bail was such a terrible problem in low income areas. Those people have few chances at success, removing them leaves all of us with a criminal on our hands.

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    3. That's a problem, but the bigger problem is having criminals let out right back out on the street, and to top that off, if you press charges they are informed of your name and address which obviously discourages most people from following through... its sheer insanity

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    4. I don't know why you call it 'the bigger problem', it may be the more immediate one, but it is not the long-term one. Creating and perpetuating a class of criminals is a much greater one.
      Additionally, you are taking the position that the people being released are criminals. Some may be, others are not. How is it ok to punish non-criminals in order that criminals are removed from the streets? They have not been convicted of any crime, if they had enough money they would be out on the streets. How is it right to leave them behind bars?

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    5. if they arrest someone more than once for an burglary, are you suggesting they should be let out once again, we aren't talking about conjecture, but people cleary caught in the act...

      Enabling criminals to do crime undeterred, definitely would create and perpetuate a class of criminals

      Also does providing the burglarized homeowners info to the burglar make any sense, which normal person want some crazy to know they are pressing charges especially when these criminals are right back on the streets...

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    6. The arresting officer is not the one making the decision. Until a trial, the system has to accept that the criminal is only a suspect. If you have a better justice system, suggest it. But that's not how it works for anyone.

      Criminals are not enabled. They are arrested, prosecuted and punished. The only difference is that until prosecution they aren't punished. That is not enabling.

      I don't know the details of the law that allows the suspect the names of the accusers, but that is a detail. That doesn't mean the law is wrong, just that it needs tweaking. But even without the no cash bail laws, the criminal will have their name and address, and be able to commit revenge later. There is no way out of that.

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  2. He is giving too much credit to the VAAD they are irrelevant and despised by the olam they have no moral standing to be representative of the lakewood community. They are self appointed and some have financial gain

    Trump won lakewood despite the VAAD

    It was the vaad spokesman who publicly called innocent frum youngeleit bad apples that is what the VAAD thinks of the olam

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    1. About 10 years ago there was going to be a VAAD harabonnim of Lakewood. That never materialized and that's why people speak with their individual Rabbonim about whom to vote for rather than sitting around for the VAAD. People are able to make their educated decisions because of alternate news sources like hefkervelt and the shopper. Years ago, the only way to know what was 'really going on' in the political circles was to trust the VAAD's endorsement. Those days are over. The oilom hears vouchers and that means more money in tbeir pockets. At the end of the day, the LSTA is not the biggest issue to the bnei torah. Remember, the VAAD said not to carpool so that traffic would look horrendous. It's all smoke and mirrors. If Jack doesn't win big in Lakewood, it is only hurting the average yungerman where if hurts, despite the raise in kollel checks. Hyperinflation hurts the working / learning middle/poor class first and hardest. Obama came to campaign for Murphy yesterday. There's much more to say, but that's really all any frum Yid should need to hear.

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  3. They endorsed Murphy last time already and he barely won the Lakewood Vote.
    There is a reason they haven't yet publicly endorsed Murphy - they are afraid of the backlash. They will wait until a few days before to ofiicially do the robocalls and ads een though early voting already happened!

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    1. They already put ads in the BP, the mailings and robocalls start the weekend before elections

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  4. https://jnews.us/bnos-melech/

    I do not need my daughter to have things sticked up her nose, hence not voting Murphy

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    1. Why not? The VAAD askanim have made a fortune off these tests! can’t you Faigin them? After all didn’t you pick up your shabbos box?

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    2. Can i stick items up your daughter's nose in exchange for a shabbos box ?

      Are your kids for sale ?

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  5. Hey, I forgot there's a Rabbi Shenky, it's been so long. Wonder why they didn't shlep him out to meet Murphy.

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    1. He is home bound. 80 years of age

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  6. Shenky is Aarons Mentor

    And BMG already dismissed Aaron

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  7. before you choose not to vote for murphy, remember that political clout helps keep people out of jail. It is a form of pidyon shevuyim. Block voting is not about petty corruption. Vote murphy!

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    1. Jack can do that too... and as Governor, he will.

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    2. Jack zugt tzu about pidyon shvuyom, Murphy didnt commit to anything and is embaresed to say that he was in Lakewood

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    3. Ken zein Obama wouldn't have shtelled tzu with him yesterday if he knew.

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    4. Murphy had a chance to do Pidyon Shvuyim. He didn't.

      Why do you think he will suddenly do it AFTER the election??

      Secondly, one isn't permitted to vote for him for that reason or every election they'll frame someone in order to get our vote for his release.

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    5. Like the story of the מהר''ם מרוטנברג who refused podyon shevuyim because of the high ransom

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  8. It was Murphy who sent the state police into Lakewood and arrest people they targeted the Levaya of Rav Strulowitz they arrested family members who made a social distancing vort they arrested Rabbi Knopfler and many other summonses and fines that they gave. If there would have been a republican gov it never would have happened in the first place
    It was murphys AG who went after ROBCF lets not forget

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    1. Murphy could have stopped this all. In fact he can pardon ROBCF now. Why is he waiting? He is all political and has no humanity.

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  9. Rabbi knopfler? Are you kidding? Give me a break. I’m not voting for Murphy but that is not a reason not to.

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    1. Maybe not for you. Every thing that man does is solely l'sheim shomayim!

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    2. Yes Rabbi Knopfler one man did more for the Klal than the feckless shameless VAAD or the mighty powerful Agudah. Because of his lawsuit Murphy was forced to back off and the shuls and yeshivos opened up in New Jersey and followed by New York.
      He was rewarded with arrest and humiliation by Murphy and some powerful local askanim who were single handily involved in the mesira.

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    3. Anon 5:10 - your timeline is a little off. Shuls opened up before his lawsuit was filed. His arrest was for fighting a police officer, a stupid thing for anyone to do.
      But he wasn't humiliated by the arrest, his standing and dignity did not suffer at all.

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    4. Anon 6:44 your time line is off and a sad attempt to distort the truth. The lawsuit was filed in the begining of May 2020 a few weeks after Pesach 4-6 weeks before shuls slowly opened back up.

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  10. Murphy supporters are a cult.

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  11. Hmmm.
    Murphy could lhave made our lives miserable during the Lakewood customized Covid response.
    He has just as much power as Czar Cuomo but chose to let us live as we wished .
    Chris Christi our latest republican sweetheart was a disaster . Anyone who can allow something like bridgegate to happen when they are so ahead in the polls is just a sinister power monger . Most of us have that picture of him sunning on the beach while they were close due to government shut down .
    Nobody lowers taxes and in particular here is lakewood spending is unchecked so therefore so will our tax bill .
    Murphy seems to be a good leader and tries to make this very diverse state as homogeneous as possible .
    All the power to him
    He`s got my vote

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    1. hopefully you'll include your own share of
      when you attempt to explain to your children the downhill slide of the world around them

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  12. What about the shopping bag ban??

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