Gov Phil Murphy was in Lakewood today visiting and meeting with various community organizations capped by a election fundraiser event at a private home. His wife Tammy Murphy held a meet and greet in Lakewood for Orthodox Jewish women who work with the community. There were a few people with Trump flags standing near the motorcade. Republican challenger Jack Ciattarelli will campaign in Lakewood on Thursday.
Photo: Gov Murphy With the Rosh Yeshiva Rav Malkiel Kotler
Photo courtesy of Blaaz and photagraphers
A disgrace to shlep r malkiel and other rabbonim to visit murphy. Thats not the way it works. If he wants he should visit them. Also murphy get up and give the rosh hayeshiva the head of the table. You knucklehead
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DeleteI guess you know better than Harav Malkiel what Daas Torah calls for doing.
DeleteNebach on the Rosh yeshiva he is forced to do this for a photo op but the askanim are to blame for using him to to get votes
ReplyDeleteThe blame is on the askanim of the Vaad who've made it clear over the years that they don't really speak for the Rosh Yeshiva. Now the Roshei Yeshiva had to show everyone they hold strongly to vote for Murphy.
DeleteThis is all due to those who claimed that the VAAD and the Roshei Yeshiva are two separate entities.
ReplyDeleteFor Pidyon shvuyim you do whatever it takes
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DeleteOtherwise, you are 100% right.
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DeleteNobody because it's a disgusting lie you are perpetuating about two fine Askanim.
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DeleteShame on anyone that supports this corrupt criminal.
ReplyDelete"I’ll raise your taxes." Sure, why not?
Those who are wealthy enough that his tax plan will affect them, should indeed take that into consideration.
DeleteThe thing is, most of us are not in that tax bracket. Why is this our problem? How are we supposed to care? Each person should vote their own interests, not someone else's.
Btw, what crime did he commit? Pursuing policies that you don't agree with, is not a crime. And being a liberal is also not.
Apparently Rav Malkiel & our other leaders don't think tax rates are the most important issue for Frum Yidden
Delete" And being a liberal is also not"
DeleteHave you found another religion yet that suits you ?
ours is so bad
I mean for example than the Seven Nations of Canaan were pluralistic and liberal and we were told to destroy them .
Or is it you believe our religion is just relegated to your kitchen in the basement and nothing outside that?
A more
What does liberal or conservative have to do with religion? In this country as Tocqueville said, religion is kept out of politics, for once the clergy are involved, they become the objects of contempt. Traditionally, NO AMERICAN clergyman will tell someone who to vote for. I am not talking about the foreign element that came after WWII and never acculturated in American values in the public schools.
DeleteIf I am for a clean environment (EPA was created during Nixon), if I am for helping the poor, or whatever side I take on any issue, I have a right to remain in the religion. Keep religion and politics separate. John Locke, Adam Smith, even Milton Friedman considered themselves liberals. We live in a "liberal republic," in contrast to the "civic republic," such as Rome before the principate of Augustus.
Mr COhen - you need to learn to read and write in full sentences. Being liberal is not a crime. The OP called Murphy a 'criminal', which is untrue.
DeleteYour religion of conservatism is another issue. I was never baptized into it, and I did not attend an American Public School. I wasn't taught that the Torah supports conservative or republican policies any more than liberal ones. The Torah does not mandate lower taxes, 'trickle down economics', the right to bear arms, or a flag burning amendment to the constitution. Perhaps there is another religion out there that believes in those things, my Cheder didn't teach comparative religion. Of course, we did not receive government money, so we weren't told what to teach. Perhaps those who support 'school choice' aka 'vouchers' think differently and want the government mandating what the schools teach. I don't know. ืืื ื ืืืืชื ื ืขืืื ืืช ืืื"ื
What's with the pumpkins?!? How is that ok?!?
ReplyDeleteIts not like they engraved a kesser torah on the pumpkins
DeleteWhat in the world is wrong with a pumpkin??? It's a G-d given "fruit of the ground". Oh, so I guess, you must also hold that since some use wine for Avoda zarah, we are not permitted to keep wine on our table and, certainly not to drink it.
Deletemany previous rebbes met with politicians prior to elections, if u look closely at the pic , this was a shleppy sit down , rav malkiel shlita has no shaychus to this kind of work the rosh yeshiva is not a rebbe... he came as a chizuk to the people who are trying their best
ReplyDeleteOr you can ask him who to vote for and he will tell you he's voting for Murphy.
DeleteAK said more than once that he directs his brothers who they ought to support.
DeleteLooks like they are checking the pumpkins for Holoween does it have a pitum
ReplyDeleteIs that the a--political R Forsheimer? Why is he at a political event? Who's house is this anybody know? Meir Lichtenstein?
Deleteshrewd Williamsburg style politics have come here complete
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Forcheimer
90% of Elections has had little clue who either of the major candidates were with all due respect. They schlepped him now
Agreed, they should've pictured HaRav Knopfler Shlit"a with his choice candidate!
DeleteAnonymousOctober 20, 2021 at 8:40 PM
ReplyDeleteWeak defense to hide behind
Everyone here is well aware the term liberal being used in the colloquial socio-political rather than the classic sense.
We've been discussing early 20th century Continental Europe?
For the record the last several years there has been Publications by commentators such as Patrick Deneen who have made the argument that liberalism even its classical form was doomed to fizzle
Tocqueville was the one who set the tone how the US system and Ethos was informed by biblical values and how that built up the whole edifice ,for the many others who have since noted after him. So the name dropping was specious.
Furthermore, classic liberalism has been on life support and virtually dead already since the 1920s since the 1920s when women suffrage and Hollywood turn the US away from the biblical Concepts and Plato's Republic which drove it
Notable personalities and communities manage to keep it on track somewhat for close to another Century, but all good things must come to an end.
Regarding "the foreign element" that came later
as their alliances and coalitions with Spurious influences for the sake of short-term communal gain
reference therefore
is a farce as their term of religion help Drive America away from the values and precepts intended to be at its core
Additionally we're not referring to religion with ritualistic form(includes lighting Hanukkah menorahs in the Public Square)
or
Authorized state-sponsored denomination which would be inappropriate but in context Is irrelevant except as a foil
is inappropriate
Your sentences suddenly drop a few lines in the middle, for no discernible reason.
DeleteI hope the same doesn't happen to your pants in public. It can be quite embarrassing sometimes. Other times, not so much.
As you're incapable naturally going on the high road
Deletethe only route for you to take is the low road
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams
ReplyDeleteSo would he also fail your liberalism ?
Anonymous at 5:14 a.m. check up on your
ReplyDeleteDavening
what is most of it about? I doubt you have a clue .
ืขืืืื ืื ืฉืืชืื ืคืจืง ืืืื ืืฉืขืื ืคืจืง ื ืคืกืืง ืื - ืื
Ignoramus. If you're not here to influence others on a larger scale
then your culture which you call your worship is self-centered aggrandisement and hardly what our
Creator desires
Even people who are less ignorant than you, sadly missed the boat(willfully)
Learn Nefesh Hachaim SHa'ar 1. You will know what davening is all about.
DeleteAlternatively, learn Beis Elokim Shaar Hatefilla.
You can also learn Kuntres avodas hatefilla from the Rashab of Lubavitch.
All have lots to say.
Funnily enough, none of them mention conservative policies or arvus for Goyim.
No, I am not a reform jew, Tikun Olam is not my job
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Deleteืืชืงื ืขืืื ืืืืืืช ืฉ-ื
Doing what ืืืจื ืขืืื wants is obviously not your priority .
it's all about avoiding more than necessary and about getting in the back door of Heaven
by hook by crook
Poor old silly ืืืจืื ืืืื ื
Deletehis offspring
turn their noses up at his efforts . Must have been in vain !
they hardly care less about about his goals or they took after the other side of the family
After Matan Torah, our job changed.
DeleteWe follow our Torah as it was taught to us by the ืืืื ืืืกืืจื. They wrote down their opinions, and we have entire libraries dedicated to their works. NONE of them taught us that we need to care about elevating the outside world, NONE of them thought that we need to change Goyishe laws, NONE of them taught us that we need to join the Goyishe world and translate their values into ours.
This new-fangled religion, that confuses politics, power, Christian values, the constitution, and Torah, is not traditional, not supported by Torah sources and a strange plant in the vineyard of Klal Yisroel.
That is what my Rebbeim taught me. ืื ืขื ืืืื ืืฉืืื ืืืืืื ืื ืืชืืฉื, we do not need them to agree with us, understand us, or focus on us. We live our own lives, following the Torah. Let them follow their phony religion and made up values. The constitution is no better than the Koran or the New Testament or Harry Potter. ืื ืืขืืื ืืืื ืืืฉ ืืฉื ืืืงืื ืืื ืื ื ื ืื ืืฉื ื'
Narrow small
ReplyDeletemindedness is how
Rav
Shneur
would have termed this
So Chumash Bereishis should be skipped entirely
What's next:How does one
maaser salt
ReplyDeleteHow would your mentors deal with the fact as per
Kovetz
Maamarim
you were supposed to put life on the line and go fight Bolshevik Russia? How is that our business? For is that our business? How come?
Let us see, perhaps there are people here who know some history who can explain what the Bolsheviks were doing to Yidden.
DeleteSome people base their decisions on what they see and understand. They don't know history and ignore it.
Others know history and understand it, and use it to inform them.
You, Mr/Mrs Cohen, are an amalgamation of the two. You have no clue about history, yet use it as 'proof'.
For everyone else, the Bolsheviks ruled over millions of Jews, and forced them to Shmad. They didn't allow Yidden to keep Torah. They prevented Chadarim and Yeshivos from existing, and they killed people who taught Torah. My own great-grandfather was arrested twice by the Bolsheviks. Just for teaching Torah. That is why we should have been Moser Nefesh to fight them. Not because they opposed trickle-down economics, or because they permitted abortion.
Mr/Mrs Cohen, if you want to quote Torah, learn it first. If you want to quote history, study it first.
Otherwise, you just sound stupid........
Many other regimes previously enacted edicts that were virtually identical to the ones you mentioned and we were never commanded to go fight for a couple Millennia .
ReplyDeleteSo for justification it's hardly surprising this is your desperate knee-jerk reaction but it certainly couldn't have been the primary basis
Furthermore
I do not like to pull rank
but I could guarantee that your knowledge of History barely registers on a radar screen
It is an infinitesimal Speck compared to my own
Reach out to Some of my acquaintances to verify. It would give them a good chuckle
Nobody was 'commanded to go fight'. Ever. Not in recent or any other history. Reb Elchonon said something else.
DeleteBut you weren't expected to understand. Just keep pulling 'rank'.
False - intentional?
DeleteMr Cohen could you share your full name? We’d like to host a debate with you and your counterpart to discuss history.
ReplyDeleteMore than willing.
DeleteFirst As a preliminary
cowards come out from hiding behind your "Anonymous'"
I personally am not interested in debating Mr/Mrs Cohen. If he/she thinks that a tefilla of ืืชืงื ืขืืื ืืืืืืช ืฉ-ืื means that we need to involve ourselves in the Goyishe politics and change their mindset, he/she is obviously far away from actual knowledge, understanding and education.
DeleteIf the fight against the Bolsheviks was because of what they were doing in their world, not in the Jewish world, it shows that he/she has no clue what was going on.
Let it slide.
DeleteAs expected my dear adolescent yingle?
Going forward address me in the third person or Rabbi/sir
in the third person.
Why are the rabonim siting on the side of the table with Murphy at the helm.
ReplyDeleteWhat a bizarre.
Look at pictures by the chasidishe rebbes, the politicians sit on the side with awe and respect to the Rabbi. Where is our kevod hatorah!