Thursday, October 29, 2020

Statement of Agudath Israel On Frum Parties accepting the Jerusalem Program at the WZO

“Statement of Agudath Israel on Charedi Principles” 

Agudah: Recent organizational statements from representatives of the Zionist movement have implied that Chareidi Jews have accepted the Jerusalem Program of the World Zionist Organization. This Program, which is a statement of the Zionist ideology, declares Zionism to be “the national liberation movement of the Jewish people” and avers to “the centrality of the State of Israel . . . in the life of the nation.”

The Jewish people is a nation based on the belief in One Hashem and the Torah He gave us, and nothing else. By omitting this truth, the Jerusalem Program – and the Zionist ideology it embodies – attempt to redefine the essence of the Jewish people as a political entity similar to all other nations of the world. This redefinition goes against the essence of our emunah and mesorah.

Among the foundational principles upon which the Torah giants of the past century established the Agudas Yisroel movement was the firm rejection of the Zionist redefinition of Jewish peoplehood. Throughout its history Agudas Yisroel has remained faithful to that essential principle, and it will continue to do so. We therefore reiterate: Any suggestion that the ideology of Zionism is compatible with Chareidi Jewry’s fundamental beliefs has no basis and must be rejected.

Also without basis is the notion that a party identifying itself as representing Chareidi Jews has the authority to sign a coalition agreement within the World Zionist Congress together with other Jewish parties including non-Orthodox religious groups, as happened last week. Chareidi Jewry has long abided by the halachic ruling of the most revered Torah leaders of a generation ago that it is forbidden to join Jewish organizations whose purpose is to bring Orthodox Jewry together with non-Orthodox under one organizational umbrella. What happened last week at the World Zionist Congress transgresses the spirit of that ruling, and represents a departure from accepted Chareidi norms. Whatever financial benefits may accrue to worthy institutions as a result of this coalition agreement, they do not justify the abandonment of principle.


At a time when there is so much confusion in our Jewish world, it is essential that we Chareidim remind ourselves that we stand for principle – and that we cannot stand silently by when fundamental values are distorted.


Postscript: What The Statement Means… And Doesn’t

Agudath Israel of America’s “Statement of Agudath Israel on Charedi Principles” is precisely and only what that title clearly states: a reiteration of our movement’s longstanding theological stance, in this case on Zionism.

 

From the very beginning of the Zionist movement, before the state of Israel’s establishment, there were deep concerns among European Gedolim about the Jewish movement that regarded the establishment of a “Jewish State” in part of Eretz Yisroel to be the highest ideal of the Jewish people.

 

Once the state of Israel was founded, the Gedolim who guided the Agudas Yisroel movement felt that, while involvement in the democratic workings of the new state – including in the Knesset – was proper, and in fact a necessary protection of religious Jews’ rights, kedushas Eretz Yisroel and kedushas Am Yisroel, the notion that the ideology of Zionism defines Jewish peoplehood is false.

 

Thus, as Rav Reuven Grozovsky zt”l, the chairman of Agudath Israel’s Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah at the time of the establishment of Medinas Yisrael, wrote, in his classic sefer “Ba’ayos Haz’man,” while the Knesset is a governmental body whose decisions affect us, the voluntary joining with any Zionist group or congress is unacceptable to Jews who know that Torah is the ultimate definer and unifier of the Jewish people.

 

The accompanying statement simply reiterates that timeless truth.

 

What the statement does not mean is that we reject in any way our fellow Jews who may not recognize that truth. No Jews are less beloved to us for that lack of recognition.

 

The statement also does not mean that we reject Israel as an illegitimate state to be resisted. Israel’s existence is a fact, and we uphold the guidance of Gedolim through the years who have counseled religious Jews to participate in her democratic process, through voting, and representation in the Knesset. And, as always, Agudath Israel of America will advocate in the halls of government for Israel’s security and economic needs and general welfare.

 

And, most importantly, the statement is not intended to – and does not – in any way injure Jewish unity. On the contrary, it fosters it, in its reminding to all Jews that, as Rav Saadia Gaon famously declared: “The Jewish nation is a nation only by virtue of the Torah.”

https://agudah.org/statement-of-agudath-israel-on-charedi-principles/

20 comments:

  1. This statement should have come out when Eretz Hakodesh was recruiting the frum community to vote and accept the Jerusalem program.

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  2. I've lost track - do we like the agudah now, or is the evil conniving terrible horrible askanim again?

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    1. Those who seek to be mashlit Al hatzibur are not behind this. They'll likely find themselves bounced within the next couple of months, or they'll clean up their act. Those days of chummy chummy with every dirty political beast and idea are over.

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  3. The current Agudah deserves a lot of credit for this. They appear poised, focused and are being meyached Klall Yisroel! Ashreinu! We are proud and greatful.

    (You cannot compare it to an organization of 6 months ago which seemed rudderless).

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    1. Actually the moetzes members Rav Aaron Feldman and Rav Malkiel kotler were very vocal and wrote at length and in detail explaining why not to join eretz hakodesh wzo

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    2. It's true that they wrote it. But, they didn't write it in the name of the Agudah.

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  4. Can someone explain why Agudah is allowed to join governments in Israel but not the WZO?
    It makes no sense to me.

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    1. Thus, as Rav Reuven Grozovsky zt”l, the chairman of Agudath Israel’s Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah at the time of the establishment of Medinas Yisrael, wrote, in his classic sefer “Ba’ayos Haz’man,” while the Knesset is a governmental body whose decisions affect us, the voluntary joining with any Zionist group or congress is unacceptable to Jews who know that Torah is the ultimate definer and unifier of the Jewish people.

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    2. You're mistaken.
      Joining the government is also about money and joining the WZO is also about protecting yiddishkeit.
      Please do your research.
      Also, see my response below.

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  5. It makes a lot if sense according to the previous gedolim. Joining a government is done holding your nose. But its allowed because the government controls land that belongs to me and without my joining ,they would he allowed to steal my share of my tax money and my share of my land and also they would make laws against yidishkeut that I have a right to protect against . Its not a good thing but I have a right and obligation to protect my yidishkeit. But joining with reform people just to get a bigger share of money ,is not the same according to these gedolim of previous years. Satmar Rov may hold that it is the same .

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  6. This week English Mishpacha favorable article for Eretz Hakodesh

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  7. Apparently, you're misinformed as to what joining the WZO means.
    It's also to protect from laws & policies that are against Yiddishkeit, which you say we are allowed to do. It's not just to get a bigger share of money - that's hardly part of the equation at all.

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    1. No i didn't say that everything is mutar to protect yidishkeit. The previous gedolim limited the heter to being in the govt because we live there and the government is our representative so we have no choice. That doesn't apply to other organizations. We don't believe that anything is mutar to help yidishkeit. That we leave to Hashem.

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    2. According to this logic ,we can help yidishkrit by joining churches also r"l.

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  8. Out of curiosity - Reb Shmuel Kamentsky and Reb Elya Brudny are on record recommending voting in the WZO election. One of the reasons that people advocated for not voting was that there was an implied or actual endorsement of the Jerusalem program (I did not look into it, so don't know).
    This statement from the Agudah is quite disingenuous. There is a reason why people are saying that the Agudah policy has changed. That is because members of the moetzes advised people to join the WZO. This statement ignores the elephant in the room.

    The statement appears to be the Agudah trying to have it both ways. Maybe that's ok, but they need to acknowledge why people are saying the Agudah has shifted. Otherwise, the statement rings hollow to me.

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    1. Agudah currently does not have political affiliations. Their moetzes, as a whole, make decisions. Some of their moetzes members spoke about their private position on the WZO. More were against it than for it, BTW.

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    2. Rav Elya Brudny did not endorse it he retracted right away and pulled the ads from the Yated.

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  9. BH the mesorah has been upheld. The talk about Herzel at the WZO was proof to what the gedolei yisrael fought against all these years. The Eretz hakodesh slate was an attempt to blur the lines and break the barriers that were built by gedolei yisrael to protect klal yusrael from the zionist ideology and kefira.

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  10. The Agudah speaks out of both sides of its mouth.

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