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Earlier tonight the Jackson Township Council voted to approve Mayor Reina's land swap with a local developer to build school buildings despite objections from neighbors. Faanews reports One neighbor exclaimed "I never knew that Orthodox Jewish residents are opposed to schools!"
- Lakewood vaad for high school acceptance will not be helping get girls into high school this year after a school decided to preempt acceptance letters forcing all other schools to do the same as panicked parents were forced to give answers. A letter sent said For the last 18 years we had a system in place, and we had a coordinated approach to High School acceptance. This has fallen apart this year, and girls are being offered High School acceptance with quick ultimatums. For this year, due to these unforeseen circumstances, there is no longer a system.“.. “To high schools that have been following protocol–schools are currently accepting, and you should do the same.”
What will happen if this year, no children are left without a school?
ReplyDeleteWe might find out that the Va'ad is completely unnecessary and an impediment to children's education.
Halevie, Halevie, Haleivie! If no one has issues with school acceptance in Lakewood without the VAADs or anyone else’s help it will border on a nes niglah .It will be something to write about in all the hasgacha pratis articles as proof that Hashem runs the world and people only make histadlus. It won’t reflect on the VAAD being unnecessary in the slightest.
Deletewhich school pre-empted the Vaad?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bhol.co.il/news/1503470 Moron shlita, not to accept before lag b"omer
DeleteIf the Vaad is doing their work Lsheim Shamayim why would they not be willing to continue helping those that need assistance? Perhaps it is an ego situation.
ReplyDeleteIf the Va'ad allows the system to change, they can't do their job.
DeleteWelcome to the wild west
ReplyDeletecan you post the letter from R Dovid Cohen/ R Edelstein SHLITA that in EY no acceptance letters before lag b'omer? and no poretz geder....
ReplyDeleteYerushalayim
DeleteThe schools should be publicized and punished
ReplyDeleteWhy should that letter be posted?
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like a great solution. If we'll know how many girls didn't get accepted there will be more then enough time to open new high schools
ReplyDeleteStory is more complicated than being portrayed by Lakewood fakenews media. New school wants to feed from a connected elementary school, and give them priority, similar to established schools do with siblings admissions. Other schools don't want to lose good girls, so they jumped ahead with admissions and then blame this new school. Vaad also wants more of say.... Two or three sides to every story. The only story you know for certain is untrue, is what the toilet websites are spinning.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely false. New school is prioritizing kids from other schools over their own elementary school if the kids from other schools are deemed more in demand. They have clearly stated that they feel no responsibility to take all kids from their feeder elementary school .
DeleteYou are delibaretely misleading people. The problem is not letting people know they will accepted. The problem us forcing people to give an answer within 24 hours at the threat of losing your slot ,when other schools didnt even finish their interviews. The only school that started that was this new school. This then forced others to follow. This did not happen in the past. Even if people were told unofficially by a school that they were accepted ,it was common practice to not threaten them with losing their slot and they could have until the acceptance letters went out to make thir choice.
DeleteIf its on TLS or YWN the opposite is likely true
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DeleteProbably same fellow who last week was propagandizing so well for Kushner's outfit
Anonymous 4:10 PM is a klepto 'establishment' crony mouthpiece troll obviously?
I had this happen 6 years ago when my daughter was in 8th grade. One high school said before all the others that they were giving us 2 days to commit to come or else we'dlose the slot, well before any other school gave responses. We were so disgusted by this we said no to them, and BH we got into what turned out to be a much better school for our daughter at tbe proper time.
DeleteHow can they walk away now after the vaad forced everyone to apply to 4-5 schools and people paid application fees and now everyone is out fending for themselves.
ReplyDeleteHashem yishmor!
DeleteDon’t be fooled into thinking that “that” high school is connected to any elementary school. 2 board members that are on the board of an elementary school, opened a high school on their own. It has no affiliation whatsoever with any elementary school.
ReplyDeleteBut when it came to raising millions of dollars from a big donor, then they were not a private school opened by 2 individuals ,but a feeder school owned by an elementary school which is owned by the kehila at large and not privately owned . But as soon as they got the money,then it became privately owned and not connected to that elementary school .
DeleteWhat is true is that it's all FAKE. The only thing that people look up to in Lakewood us Gelt & Kavod!!
ReplyDeleteso why does everyone keep moving here?
DeleteMaybe there are alot of people who look up to gelt and covid looking to live in a place they look up to gelt and cavod. Why did you move here if I may ask?
Deletei din't move here.. i was born here.
DeleteLakewood needs more high schools but why should a certain established school be the ones to do so at the expense of new fledgling schools that can shut down since they are not given a chance to take off.
ReplyDeleteI think from now on only new yungeleit who will learn in yeshiva could move here. Lakewood is not a place for young balabatim. Whoever moved here in the last few years from Brooklyn driving house prices to crazy amounts, taking our doctors and all services away, and brought gashmiyus to town like we never saw should all move back and sell their houses to yungeleit at discounted prices similar to what they were 10-15 years ago. Maybe there should be a system where anyone who wants to move here has to get approved by bmg before they move.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Queens,Staten Is.,Chicago,LA,Toronto,Montreal,Miami
DeleteAh the myth of the Brooklynite moving in and ruining your town. 95% of the young balabatim you are speaking about were learning in BMG and then went to work. They were already in Lakewood. If the yeshiva does not let any other post-EY yeshiva open then it will attract all types.
DeleteFair enough.
DeleteAs predicted when they boycotted Sloatsville has come to fruition, And then some
The gashmius is from born bred and educated Lakewood girls and boys. You are sooo naive to think the gashmius is coming from outside. The bigger question is where did we go horribly wrong? Close your eyes and it will only get worse.
DeleteI know nothing about what's going on here. At the moment, I don't have high school age girls. All I know is based on what's being reported here.
ReplyDeleteI do have some questions though:
One school broke with the system and began accepting girls early. Not only did they do that - they demanded a response within 24 hours.
If this is true, why weren't the other Lakewood schools, as well as parents and Rabbonim disgusted by this? Why did they not band together and decide that they won't give into this school? The parents can decide that they don't want their daughters to receive an education from a school that seems not to care about the community. That they don't want their daughters to receive an education from a school that is poretz geder.
Why is this not possible? Why is one selfish school able to blow up the system?
What is the school's side of the story? What is the side of the parents who went for the 24-hour ultimatum? What is the vaad's side of the story where they seem to be issuing their own ultimatum?
Who oversees the vaad and which Rabbonim approved their ultimatum? Does the vaad abide by a set of rules? I hope that this is not a case where power corrupts. I hope that this is not a case of absolute power corrupting absolutely.
None of my questions negate any of immense and wonderful good done by any individual, institution or organization. UT we certainly have to be wary of misbehavior - and do all we can to disrupt and stop any misbehavior.
בשם ה’ נעשה ונצליח!
Goodness,
DeleteIt is as bad as the worst you can guess
I will answer your question with another question. When houses were going for 500,000 why are we in bidding wars to give the goyim a million ? Why don't all buyers band together and say enough is enough and we won't give in to this price gouging and only pay a fair price ? In reality that's is what should be. But people don't think about the klal . They need a house so they say ,I'll pay whatever it takes to have a house and it's not my problem if that raises the prices way above what they should be .
DeleteSame here . This school put out the noise that this year there will be a big shortage of slots . They hyped that up and got parents very nervous . Then they gave parents a 24 hour ultimatum. Either take our offer or risk your daughter being on the street. The parents didn't even have the chance of getting interviews or answers from other schools but they went into panic mode . The other schools are all disgusted by this one school and asked the parents not to cave in and so are the elementary school principals . but nobody was willing to tell parents to risk having their daughter with no slot. So the elementary school principals put tremendous pressure on the other schools to give answers quickly even before the interviews and some schools caved to the pressure and also started demanding answers from parents and then some sent out acceptance letters . So the system totally broke . Once there is panic in the streets , unless you have a tight kehila structure like by Chasidim , you can't prevent parents from taking care of their kids or buyers taking care of their housing needs.in both cases ,it destroys our society one in ruchniyos and one in gashmius but panic creates bad things.
As far as the Vaad , the only thing the Vaad had going for it in past years was a certain level of trust between the schools and a certain level of the machanchos of each school caring about the big picture of trying as best as they could to help all the girls. It wasn't a perfect system but with all its faults ,it worked for the most part. Nobody had to give answers until the interviews were done and all acceptance letters went out at a mutually agreed upon date . Now that this school has destroyed the trust between the schools , there will be no cooperation because every school just assumes that this school will just do what it wants and the system is over . It will actually be much worse than the mesivtas going forward because of the tight space and other reasons.
As far asthe Vaad I don't think it was an ultimatum. It was simply throwing up their hands and stating a fact that they no longer had the schools cooperating with each other ,because the other schools felt very wronged and taken advantage of by this action and without cooperation the Vaad hs no power and its like the mesivta system.
In short you are technically right. I'm theory if all patents would have told that school that we will not give in to intimidation and terror tactics and they all banded together and said that ,then this woukd not have happened. But the same can be said fir the housing prices . When sellers started raising prices because of the crazy bidding wars ,if all buyers woukd have banded together and said we are not going to pay raise insane orices ,then Lakewood woukd stillbe affordable for Bnai Torah. But since there are always those that don't think about the ramifications to the klal, we have panic in school acceptances and housing prices . Same concept.
"I know nothing about what's going on here."
Deletethat basically sums it up and answers all of your questions
To answer your first question, it would seem to be a prisoner's dilemma. If everyone holds out, everyone will be fine, but if some start saying yes to the school, the one who's holding the line will lose out.
DeleteTo complicate matters, there's no organized parent body to coordinate a boycott, plus there's no time for such coordination because they only have 24 hours to reply to the school.
The other schools have the same problem; if some students who they wanted say yes to the first school, then they lost our by not accepting.
Not having a high school age daughter doesn’t mean you have to be so stupid and naive. Nobody could afford to ignore this school, obviously if a girl had even some interest in the school and got in can’t take the chance abi to stand up to what’s right. What a stupid comment!
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