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Calling for Shalom now? Wait a minute…
Of course we need shalom..
But let’s put this into prospective…Wow
Do you even realize what you did?
You just “punched us in the face”.
You utterly disregarded our opinion and feelings..
We are worth nothing….(NOTHING!!)
For the sake of money you’ll do anything.. at whatever cost to the detriment of klall yisroel!!!
But the next minute you are calling for Shalom?
You got your money, Ok, now let’s make Shalom…?????
What is going on.. Sorry that’s not how it works
And it’s totally hypocritical to ask for Shalom after the mighty punch you guys (thiv v ימי וכגe wzo chevrah) gave us,,,
Wzo, yes “you” caused “tremendous Machlokes” in Klall Yisroel..
Is Hashem happy with you? (I don’t think so).
So what is this fight about ?
About holding up the standards of Yiddishkeit? About upholding the Torah?
or about Money!!
Certain unscrupulous people in Klall Yisroel are hungry for any kind of money, and will be over any issur to make that money, make any fight, as long as they get that money and fool vulnerable Gedolim (controlled by their children and grandchildren to go along with their agenda.. (if you want letoeles I can name names)
And the Olam (the loyal goats..) follow with the fake intent of saving the Torah!
Let’s be honest.. if all the Gedolim were against WZO, what changed?
Nothing
Just fake news that some Gedolim changed their mind
Fake news..
(let’s scream it out loud) “It’s really about the money….”
No one would vote (no one!) if no money was involved.. even if it would save the Torah!
When there is money, then suddenly we are pushed to vote…
I guarantee you if there was no money in involved no one go vote even though Reb Chaim Kanievsky said..
Let’s be honest
Some scoundrels found a new way to make non-kosher money And they are embracing it..
So we fight it..
We fight things that are destroying Yiddishkeit.. (in the costume of Saving the Torah).
It’s bad. It’s wrong, it’s against the Torah
It made major machlokes….
Was it worth it? NO!
Are you going to tell me. Making money makes sense even if it makes machlokes?
No way..
Let’s not forget that 99% of our Gedolim are against this…
Including most current Gedolim such as Hagaon Rebbe Dov Landau Shlit”a..
So the ones that are against voting are in the majority..
הולכין בתר רוב
And they have a right to complain about the money hungry people…
Then you call for shalom
How crazy..
The Chasam Sofer says
למען אחי ורעי אדברה נא שלום בך
For my brother I seek piece (of course)!
But
למען בית ה' אבקשה טוב לך
But for Hashem, I can’t just seek piece, I have to seek what Hashem wants
Let’s ask ourselves, does Hashem want us to vote WZO?
When it made such Machlokes? When 99% of Gedolim are against it?
No
So all the “suddenly piece makers” are calling for Shalom…
OK, You want Shalom
Simple, give back the money …
Say you’re sorry…
And we can make peace!!!
But, no piece, while you are going against the Torah (supposedly to save the Torah—but making major Machlokes in Klall YIsroel for no reason, and supporting the Rashim of the world)
So everyone who voted WZO look in the mirror and, ask yourself, was it worth it to vote for them and make Machlokes?
In middle of sefirah noch dertzu?
How could your hand cast that vote..
How? How? How?
How could you vote….
Does Shalom have no price?
What about Shalom.. when you know it’s making Machlokes?
Oh maybe You don’t really care about Shalom? (I wonder????).
Stop voting and bring Shalom to Klall Yisorel!
Think about this - Maybe money is not the most important thing in the world.. if it makes fights…
לי הכסף ולי הזהב
Hashem has enough money – it’s not our job to take treife money! (Brisker Rov)
Taking their treife money, It’s saying you don’t believe in Hashem is the כל יכול – he can support us with Kosher money!!!
Sincerely
Mr. Sam Berger
Which article did I miss thats suddenly calling for sholom?
ReplyDeleteI disagree. The Gedolim aren't (shouldn't be) statues who simply toe a line. Rather they are (need to be) leaders who instruct us how to conduct ourselves in every situation. One year they can say to vote and the next one not to. And certainly when there is machlokes as to what should be done one needs to be sure of what his Rebbi or The Gadol said.
ReplyDeleteUh...The WZO elections were over a week ago and won't be happening again for another five years. Even assuming this letter had merit, writing and publishing it now is for the exclusive purpose of stirring up machlokes with zero possible toeles .
ReplyDeleteI see no purpose in this post other than to create machlokes in any small area there wasn't one yet.
ReplyDeleteLOL, al least 80% of Israeli Moisdos rely on Treife money they get from the goverment
ReplyDeleteThis week The Monsey Mevaser newspaper had a front page screaming ACHDUS the editorial called for unity after the machlokes surrounding the WZO elections
ReplyDeleteBut the editorial did nothing but fan the flames at it mocked those who were against voting poking fun of their arguments ridiculing the ones who spoke out all while calling for achdus.
This is fake achdus
Did the editor promise not to take sides in the future and decline all advertisements that will fuel this machlokes? NO!
So let's not pretend like we are all good and then resume the fight in 5 years again
So go write a letter to The Monsey Mevaser newspaper. Until very recently even in the non-Jewish world after even the most bitter elections, both sides called for coming together now that the elections are over anyway. Despite knowing the fight would restart before the next ones. Is that standard too much to ask for?
DeleteDoes Hashem want us to vote?
ReplyDeleteWell, let's phrase it differently.
Does Hashem want us to dilute and remove the reform and conservative influence in Eretz Yisroel?
Some people are controlled by their grandchildren.
ReplyDeleteIn other places, the grandchildren are the ones making the noise themselves.
Let's not forget about the boycott that was called by the roshei yeshiva against the frum media papers and websites who were paid to push the WZO Eretz hakodesh campaign
ReplyDeleteThey will now try to pretend like nothing happened.
We must remember who did what and vote with out wallets
The dirty campaign articles linking Lakewood to conservatives as they were the ones who controlled the narrative of the roshei yeshiva was sick disgusting and a bizayon talmidei chachomim of epic proportions there's no mechila for YWN and EH for what they did
ReplyDeleteNEVER FORGET!
NEVER FORGET!??? Who are trying to be like, Edom who the posuk says about וְעֶבְרָת֖וֹ שְׁמָ֥רָה נֶֽצַח ? Maybe try to go in the ways of Hashem and follow the posuk of לֹֽא־לָנֶ֥צַח יָרִ֑יב וְלֹ֖א לְעוֹלָ֣ם יִטּֽוֹר
DeleteThe ways of Hashem is is שכר ועונש
Deleteכל האומר הקב"ה ותרן...
The עונש is much more severe on those who say things like NEVER FORGET! Hashem judges people in accordance with they judge others and is moichel people in accordance with how forgiving they were to others.
DeleteThis letter makes no sense. You can just as easily write a whole letter saying even if you oppose voting in the WZO elections (with non stop attacks on those who oppose voting like this letter...) for the sake of Sholom don't say anything against voting. Don't you realize how how offensive you are being to the people who vote? You can certainly write a letter saying that even if you oppose voting in the WZO elections don't attack the people who vote personally like this letter does. I heard from Rav Yehuda Jacobs ztl that strongly as Rav Ahron Kotler expressed himself, no talmid of his ever remembers him attacking anyone personally or accusing them of ulterior motives unless he was discussing an open and admitted kofer.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the tremendous Chilul Hashem with reports of 2000 fraudulent votes thrown out from Eretz Hakodesh and other frum slates.
ReplyDeleteDid they apologize for making frum Jews look bad with these votes?
Did they deny any fraud?
Where's all the frum media that love pointing out chilul hashem of frum Jews why are YWN/VIN silent?
Only Peleg makes a chilul Hashem
Only people who park in handicap spots make chilul Hashem but fraudulent votes get swept under the rug
My dear Reformer,
DeleteThe fraud votes was basically a myth.Typical of the dirty tactics that the the frei &/or the wild irresponsible frum who claim to be anti but enable them, use & project onto the decent.
Of course, it was possible to avoid that machlokes over Eretz Hakodesh entirely - by voting for Mizrachi.
ReplyDeleteOr the FREI, foolish that you are
DeleteAnother writer who thinks it's about our getting some money. It isn't. It's about stopping THEM from getting it. Wake up!
ReplyDeleteHaha your the one who fell for the talking points while the big guys are taking the money with big salaries laughing all the way to the bank.
DeleteThe Reform increased their participation in wzo because of the eretz hakodesh campaign
HAH HAH
ReplyDeleteAS if all you anti-EH ever allowed anybody Shalom till now.You NEED tumult to give some purpose in this world
Till next thing comes along!
ALL Shalom preaching is miserably hilarious 😂
they never claimed to want shalom. the other side is the ones who preach about shalom.
DeleteSo it's straightforward. They survive on machlokes
DeleteWho is Sam Berger and who does he represent (other than Sam Berger)?
ReplyDeleteIt's a fake name of course. The type of people who write these letters always hide behind anonymity. They have no intentions of standing behind it. And the type of person who would agree with this letter wouldn't go by a name like "Sam"
DeleteUnfortunately it’s always about the “Benjamin’s” just see a more current issue aguda arranges meeting with cuomo who is responsible for the death of thousands of people many of them yidden and responsible for closing down anything to do with yiddishkeit while allowing other Venus to go on as regular not one word was mentioned during today’s meeting about it and this is AGUDAS YISROEL!!!???huh give me a break it’s always about $$$$$$$
ReplyDeleteThis is a comedic piece. Blaming the victim, EH, who were following their own gedolim, for not following my Gedolim.
ReplyDelete