Hashkafa With Rav Gershon Ribner shlita
My father-in-law’s tendency to intoxication is shaming us all
Exhausting retirement savings to sustain sons in Kollel
The influence of the affluent mechanchim on our children
The relevance to date of the hisnagdus to original Chassidic movement
Original Chassidus was blindingly attractive to many great scholars
How can a Torah Ugedulah rebbe preach mesiras nefesh while not living that lifestyle
ReplyDeleteHypocrites.
DeleteA generation or so ago when these people/families had considerably less,these very same people/families regularly mocked & debased those who believed in having a part of both worlds as grubbe megushem'niks.
Blasted hypocrites
The book הגאון was never 'banned'.
ReplyDeleteThe Novominsker Rebbe wrote a rebuttal. But it wasn't banned at all.
It happens to be a low-level book, without the sophisticated understanding of the issues at hand.
And about Nefesh Hachaim - the entire Sefer is against Chassidim. Many of us don't know that, because we don't know what Chassidus preached. But when you get to know more, you realize that the Nefesh Hachaim does a great job of immunizing people to their ideas.
Is that why many if not most of the students of Velozion became communist or friy?
ReplyDeleteIIRC There was no Reform of any stripe there. Unlike Poland, & Hungary-massively
DeleteThe book Hagaon wasn't "banned" (or attacked, is more like it) because Misnagdim were getting heated up. It was "banned" because Chasidim were getting heated up.
ReplyDeleteR' Chaim Kanievsky's point was that Chasidim have always discussed the old machlokis while contemporary Misnagdim shy away from it, with the result that the Chasidic take on those issues became enshrined as the correct one. But there's no logical reason that only one side of an issue should be allowed to discuss it and that their perspective on their opponents - including big gedolim - should become the accepted one. Most contemporary Gedolim seemed to feel that despite this, it's simply not worth getting people riled up, but RCK seemed to be less concerned about that.
The Novominsker "rebuttal", such as it was, was actually a striking example of this. He asserted that the Misnagdim were simply wrong, and the Gra was fooled due to מעשה שטן, and that anyone who tried to justify the Gra and explain that he had any sort of actual point was some sort of רשע or טיפש. This type of thing is something that he would never tolerate anyone saying about any Rebbe, but he was comfortable declaring it about the Gra with such vehemence since it had become widely accepted, even thought this acceptance was mostly due to the fact that the proponents of the Gra's position had simply decided it was not worth continuing to maintain their position for practical reasons, as above.
On another note, there are actually very few if any (the ישמח משה?) examples of gedolim becoming chassidim. What there are many of is examples of young תלמידי חכמים becoming chasidim, and later growing into Gedolim. That's not quite the same thing.
Well put & understated
DeleteYismach Moshe was a grandson of the Divrei Chaim (and further related on his mother's side.)
ReplyDeleteHardly a born-misnaged.
I don't think you have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
DeleteThe Yismach Moshe was a misnaged, until his son in law the אריה דבי עילאי got him to travel to Lublin.
He was not related to the Divrei Chaim, except through his descendants' marriages.
Correct, the litvaks didn't become reform, they just STOPPED being Frum!
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