Agudah responds to an article recently published as an op-ed column in The Jewish Press
By Rabbi Chaim Dovid Zwiebel
A number of people have called my attention to an anti-Agudath Israel screed that was recently published as an op-ed column in a Jewish periodical. The article defames Rabbi Moshe Sherer z’l, distorts the words of my colleague Rabbi Avi Shafran, and slanders the Agudah. I feel I must respond.
The article insinuates that the Agudah, going back to 1980 when Rabbi Sherer served as president of the organization and continuing still through today, supports Democrats over Republicans to the detriment of our community’s interests, and does so for financial gain. Thus, writes the author, “the late Rabbi Moshe Sherer of Agudath Israel had promised President Jimmy Carter the Orthodox vote [in the 1980 presidential election]. We can only speculate what he got in return for choosing the spendthrift candidate over the moral candidate.”
To anyone who knew Rabbi Sherer, the notion that this legendary Agudah leader who enjoyed the absolute trust of the greatest Gedolei Yisroel would favor a “spendthrift” political candidate in order to get something “in return,” is beyond preposterous and deeply offensive. What is the author’s source for Rabbi Sherer’s alleged promise to President Carter?
And what is his source for the equally startling assertion that Vice President Walter Mondale called Rabbi Sherer to complain about people wearing Reagan buttons on Ocean Parkway, to which Rabbi Sherer supposedly replied that they were disciples of a “fringe rabbi” who had no real following in the community? Whether any rabbonim encouraged people to wear Reagan buttons I do not know, but it’s a bit hard to believe that Vice President Mondale would place a special call to complain about the buttons of Ocean Parkway. And it’s even harder to believe that Rabbi Sherer would denigrate a choshuve rav in conversations with any other people, let alone the Vice President of the United States.
How does the author know the details of these alleged conversations? Were they disclosed in the public memoirs of President Carter and Vice President Mondale? Have any historians of that era written about these alleged conversations? Did Rabbi Sherer confide in him? Did Rabbi Sherer reveal this information at the Agudah convention? Did it get written up in the Jewish Observer? Are there minutes of these conversations in the Agudath Israel archives?
I would venture to say not. I would venture to say these conversations probably never took place. And yet they are cited in the article as confirmed fact, and for one reason alone: to attack the Agudah.
The author intensifies that attack by pointing to one of Rabbi Avi Shafran’s recent articles in which he opines that most Democrats, including Vice President Biden, are reasonable people and generally supportive of Israel. This opinion, in the author’s eyes, constitutes “criminal naivite and negligence at best, cynical manipulation and distortion at worst.”
Further, it proves that “Rabbi Avi Shafran and Agudath Israel were still engaging in their misguided behavior from 1980.” (Just to make sure his readers understand what’s really on his mind, the author congratulates himself for his temperate language in describing the Agudah’s behavior as simply “misguided”; “the alternative,” he ominously proclaims, “is too awful to contemplate” – thereby inviting his readers to engage in precisely such awful contemplation.)
While it is true that Rabbi Shafran serves as Agudath Israel’s public affairs director, he also frequently speaks in his own voice as well, not as a spokesman for the Agudah but as a private individual. His column about the Democratic Party was an expression of his personal views, and cannot be attributed more generally to the Agudah.
But beyond that, it is dismaying that the anti-Agudah op-ed columnist cites Rabbi Shafran’s article so selectively, treating it as a de facto endorsement of Mr. Biden and the Democratic Party. In fact, Rabbi Shafran took pains to disavow any such endorsement. Here’s what he wrote:
“None of the above is intended as a call to support Mr. Biden. There is ample and understandable enthusiasm in our community for President Trump, who has taken a number of steps to show support for Israel. And there are other issues where our stances resonate with the Republican ones. Personally, I am a registered Republican, and have, over decades, most often voted for Republican candidates.
“I’m suggesting only one thing: that we refrain from demonizing either of our country’s major political parties.”
Finally, a word to the periodical that published this anti-Agudah screed: What conceivable to’eles is there in attacking Rabbi Sherer? What heter is there to publicly denigrate an organization that works tirelessly and effectively under the leadership of gedolei Yisroel to promote the interests of the klal?
The writer’s words, were they true, would be lashon hora of the worst sort. As it is, they are worse, a hotzo’as shem ra, an inexcusable slander.
"While it is true that Rabbi Shafran serves as Agudath Israel’s public affairs director, he also frequently speaks in his own voice as well, not as a spokesman for the Agudah but as a private individual. His column about the Democratic Party was an expression of his personal views, and cannot be attributed more generally to the Agudah."
ReplyDeleteThis is very weak response. If shafran is the official public affairs director than be should not be making any statements that are not in line with Agudah policy or Daas Torah. When he publishes any article it is assumed that it is agudah approved. You cant have it both ways.
Do president Trumps spokesman have a right to speak against his policies publicly and claim that he is doing so as a private person.
Doed Shafran write a disclaimer if hes doing so as a private individual.
Agreed.
DeleteI knew someone who got a small time job in Agudah when Reb Moshe Sherer was alive. It was a small time apolitical job that no one possibly could have though that his boich opinions represent Agudah.
Even so, after that, he absolutely refused to say any opinions on any issue of even the most minor controversy. And this is even though before he got the job he never said anything that would not be consistent with the Aguda view anyway.
Agudah has a anti Trump problem that is not resonating with a majority of frum Jews. Articles written over the last years by anti Trumpers within the org including Rabbi Shafrans articles open letters and op eds only alianates from the base and mainstream frum Jews. It shows not only a disconnect but an elitist condesending culture as well.
ReplyDeleteAnd what was the purpose of the aguda calling out a chasidishe school in Williamsburg for opening? Aguda wants is to believe they are guided by torah, when we all know that they are driven by an agenda. Aguda has become irrelevant, and represents a small fringe of orthodox jewry.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Agudah first wake up mow almost 4 years later to try and distance themselves from the anti Trump association is it all about the money?
ReplyDeleteThey had plenty of chances to say that these people do not represent them even they work for them.
Put Israel and the Arabs aside look at what the left is doing to this country Trump is the better shliach despite his manors and rheteric. No pne looks up to him as someone to emulate or expect him to have sterling middos. Thats not the focus.
ReplyDelete'Whether any rabbonim encouraged people to wear Reagan buttons I do not know' well i do know. rabbi miller did
ReplyDeleteThe JP writer accused Rabbi Sherer of receiving something in return for supporting Carter. Zweibel vehemently denies it. I don't understand what is wrong. Of course he should horse trade in politics, that is what politics is all about. Does someone think that Rabbi Sherer received something for himself? If he received something, it was for Klal Yisroel. What is the problem? We use our vote to receive things that we need as a community.
ReplyDeleteAnd the idea that a Hollwood star is the 'moral' candidate shows how morally bankrupt the yated/limbaugh chassidim truly are.
Moral? No one cares about the president's personal morals. We care about the morals of his policies.There is no question that the morals of Trump's policies are so much better and more Torah'dik than the morals of Biden's policies.
DeleteThat is why ehrliche yidden support Trump.
A"the idea that a Hollwood star is the 'moral' candidate shows how morally bankrupt the yated/limbaugh chassidim truly are."
DeleteThis is a lefty response you blame the others for embracing trump as "moral" that is projection. No one thinks trump is a example of moral it is the policies he implements. The Frum anti Trumpers have such a hatred they will support the left and welcome sdom and ammorah to a classroom of their grandchildren and bring sinas yisrael.
And let them embrace mr. Moral bill Clinton who defiled the oval office.
Umm, I think you misread my comment. The hollywood star is not trump. They complained about the Agudah's supposed support for Carter over Raegan, as though Raegan was a moral candidate. He was a hollywood star, and his policies are directly and indirectly to blame to many of America's problems today.
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DeleteYou are nuts to blame America's problems on Regan. It is due to Regan that the USA won the cold war and that so many of our brethren were able to attain religious freedom.
I am not too sure that America won the Cold War. At the time it looked like it, but Russia seems to be quite powerful nowadays.
DeleteBut his disastrous economic policies were the real problem. Lowering the tax rate for the rich, while eliminating tax credits for the poor, was the source of the massive income inequality we see today. His government was behind the 'greed is good' policies that are the center of all government policies nowadays. The Democrats are only slightly better than the republicans in this respect.
If Shaffran is writing in his own name, then why do you - R. Chaim Dovid - allow him to identify himself in these articles as the director of media and public affairs for Agudath Israel?
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ReplyDelete"How does the author know the details of these alleged conversations? Were they disclosed in the public memoirs of President Carter and Vice President Mondale? Have any historians of that era written about these alleged conversations? Did Rabbi Sherer confide in him? Did Rabbi Sherer reveal this information at the Agudah convention? Did it get written up in the Jewish Observer? Are there minutes of these conversations in the Agudath Israel archives?"
Every single Artscroll biography, including Rabbi Sherer's own, is based exactly off these sort of unsourced/anonymous stories. Who does he think he is fooling? I guess we should discount every single gadol story we've ever been told because we can't point to a formal primary source for them.
Also, calling the head of a national religious organization is exactly the sort of thing I would expect the vice-president to do during election season. Not like he has that much else to do.
ReplyDeleteThe zkan Rosh Yeshiva And chaver Moetzes Harav Shmuel Kamenetzky shlita said to vote for Trump. case closed.
ReplyDeleteAgudah should publicly condemn shafrans leftist anti Torah screed
ReplyDeleteThey should, but instead are doubling down on it by defending it. Who pays the bulk of Avi Shfran's salary? If they had an issue with his column, they could have shut it down.
DeleteThe fact that his article publicly opposed the Zkan Rosh Hayeshivos and member of the Moetzes, disporves Aguda's claim to represent Daas Torah.
Things like this is what makes myself, and many others question, what exactly is it that Agudah does, other than raise money?
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ReplyDeleteagudah is attempting to recast themselves as martyrs
the bold accusations are hardly novel
WHERE is our FRESSER freind, with his super intelligent comments about BBQs and ferssing?????
ReplyDeleteResponses to CD Zweibel's article: https://www.jewishpress.com/sections/features/agudas-yisroel-my-first-love/2020/09/03/ http://rabbiylevin.com/index.php/2020/09/02/response-to-chaim-d-zwiebe
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