Wednesday, September 11, 2019

DAYAINU We've Reached the End of The Line

! דיינו
Not as a parent and not as a person who has any blood or money in the issue, but the time has come to end this horrible situation. Ateres Tzipora 2 months ago closed its doors, as no viable solution has been found. Askanim, Rosh Yeshivas, Rabanim, and concerned individuals, have tried different options to find a way to save the day, by creating a new school, but it hasn't worked out. We have reached overtime and beyond.

 The school year is in full swing and a hundred girls have no school to call their own. It is time for true leaders to say we have reached the end of the line. It is time for leadership to say DAYAINU! I believe that today, don't push until tomorrow, is the time to call a meeting of all the people who have taken upon themselves chinuch for the sake of HASHEM, to sit down and place every girl in a school today. (V'im loi achshav, aimasai).

Parents are setting up temporary homeschools but that is not either a viable option for many reasons. These kids need stability and friends.  Now is not the time for wishful thinking it's time to face reality and place these neshamos in existing schools.
(Submitted)

23 comments:

  1. so WHY did the new school not work out? the teretz is too little too late , the parents couldnt pay the numbers asked , many parents didnt want her & her..its not about rabonim at the end of the day parents make choices and daosaayhem shonim

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    1. They are still working on it need a administrator funding and a building

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  2. This Ateres tzipora debacle needs to end. If there isn't a plan, it's time to throw in the towel, and place girls elsewhere.

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  3. Parents are starting a temporary school
    In someone's house it's a start but not a long term solution for these kids.

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  4. Enough excuses from the Askonim
    SHUT THE SCHOOLS !!!
    ( it will solve the problem in two days )

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  5. The guy from NY who was supposed to be the administrator left so now they are looking for a new administrator and claim that the new school will open up next week

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  6. They signed a lease for the building

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  7. Worse then not doing anything, is telling people you're taking care of it, but don't.

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  8. Enough with the news flashes they are only kicking the can down the road. At this point all kids should be placed in schools and they should work on the new bais yaakov for next year

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  9. The Schools that are telling girls to leave are even worse. There were close to 40 High School girls this year alonethat were told not to come back or were made to feel very unwanted by restricting every move and action or said things to them to make them feel really low about themselves.
    They are responsible for these girls being Mechalel Shabbos ( which happens very quickly in about 40% of the cases) Other terrible boy/girl relationships evolve from this and it brings down the Ruchnius level of the entire city of Lakewood

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    1. Do you know the reason they were told not to come back or you’re just ranting? Can’t be certain but usually if told not to come back there is a very good reason but it’s always easy to knock the askanim and the schools.

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  10. Bh parents are taking matters into their own hands and setting up classes for different grades at people's homes.

    This should be a start of something good

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  11. Where's the building on prospect?

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  12. There are tons of high school girls out on the street like my daughter it's really hard and sad the Lakewood school situation.

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  13. Yeah right you’re not a parent. What else is new?

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  14. Why will this new school be any more successful than ateres Tzipora was? Same staff same parent body, other than the building what’s changing?

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  15. Doing the same thing yet expecting different results doesn't work. The real issue for the failures are not being addressed. Until they are addressed, there will be no successful option.

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  16. 4 grades are starting tomorrow iyh in a few locations

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  17. What are they reasons it failed in the first place besides that some parents (who didn’t always live here) are looking for a fight and then to cry wolf?

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  18. Well some classes are full with no more room pretty ironic considering that the same was accused of all other schools. Don't do to others what you don't want done to you

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  19. Very sad. Unfortunately, it is not only the mosdos to blame,many parents say if you bring that kid to my school mine will leave. The principals need to stand up to the parents, and tell them all Yiddishe girls are accepted in my school, & if you don't like it lump it.
    Another serious problem is that the schools are over capacity by far, adding classes costs money, and many feel that they are overloaded on raising money, and can't take any more upon themselves.
    Another problem, that unfortunately over the past 7 decades since WW2, Klall Yisroel, has become different communities we are no longer one like we used to be.
    The Chasidim setup their own mosdos, & then each chasidus setup its own mosdos, & as the Rebbe's kids take over they do it over & over.
    Those who dedicated their lives to Torah were the core of Lakewood, & the local mosdos catered for them. Then some of the Yeshivishe started working & staying in town, most still remained true bnei Torah, and still able to use the same institutions, but then there were new generations & new arrivals who needed different mosdos to cater for them.
    Then you have the rules, like no parents may have smart phones, when they go for the interview, those who have no phone, or who tell the truth (don't have a second phone to show the menahel) are nixed.
    Then you have those who work hard & honest jobs, but 2 salaries don't bring enough for a Yiddishe family, and can't afford the tuition, let alone a building fund although they are doing all they can, they work as hard as they could, and are in debt, they are not eligible for programs, and are flat out broke. Many AT parents fit in those categories, and help is very distant.
    I guarantee if they had a lot of money, no matter how ehrlich they made it, no matter what cellphones they had, what hechsher they ate, where they went on vocations, how they dressed, wouldn't matter their kids would be in schools.
    If they were somehow connected to the Yeshivishe, and part of the outwardly at least obedient surfs, their kids would get in somewhere.
    However being ehrlich, doesn't seem to work in olam hasheker.
    If this is Pikuach nefesh maybe the parents have to lie & promise big money , put down some they borrow, & default later , like so many do. Once the kid is in who will be able to throw them out, I am not the internet posek, but please ask your local Rabbi. Unfortunately it all about money at the end of the day, and even if we don't say it we all know it.

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  20. Wow is that all? You seem to have all the answers

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