Thursday, November 27, 2025

Giyus Draft Law Publicized Ahead of Deliberations

More on the bill.
The bill cancels all draft orders issued to haredim since 2023, effectively resetting the system and granting a kind of retroactive “amnesty” to those who received call-up notices under the previous legal vacuum.

The bill also introduces a limited recognition of “civil-security service.” Up to 10% of the annual draft target could be fulfilled through service in bodies such as the police, the Prison Service, or other security-related frameworks.

In addition, men who grew up in the Charedi school system but have since become less observant would still be counted toward the charedi quota if they enlist.

Summary of Key Differences Between Bismuth’s Draft and Edelstein’s Earlier Proposal

Sanctions on Individuals:
Bismuth’s bill keeps personal sanctions on draft evaders but significantly softens them. Sanctions apply only until roughly age 26 (sometimes 23 for certain measures), after which a non-enlisted man can regularize his civil status. Possible sanctions include: suspension of a driver’s license, travel restrictions, and work limits outside designated study hours.
Earlier drafts considered much harsher financial penalties, such as cutting tax benefits and scholarships  measures not included in Bismuth’s version.

Sanctions on Yeshivos:
Yeshiva funding would be tied to meeting 75% of their recruitment targets; institutions falling short would face partial budget cuts, not full defunding.
There are no intrusive enforcement mechanisms such as biometric time clocks that were discussed in tougher proposals. Critics argue this leaves the law largely symbolic.

- PM office optimistic the law will pass.
Prime Minister’s Office personnel claim
The draft conscription law presented today something that has not been done since the founding of the state will lead to the enlistment of about 23,000 Charedim within three and a half years; four times the average until now and four times the targets set in the original Liberman-Gantz law. The law combines sanctions and strict restrictions for failing to meet the targets. This is an excellent law, and this law will pass.(Amit Segal)

The giyus draft law that will exempt bochurin from serving in the IDF has formally been publices by the house and foreign relations committee chair Boaz Bismut. The committee will have a marathon of hearings in it next week.
The law includes quotas and sanctions if the numbers are not met.
It already faces backslash from knesset members vowing to oppose it
Yuli Edelstein “This is not a draft law.” 
 Naftali Bennett: “We will fight the exemption law.”
Lapid: “An anti-Zionist disgrace.”
Eisenkot: “A national disgrace.”

In the published draft, it is written that national civilian service in auxiliary units of the Prime Minister’s Office is considered “service,” and that a Charedi individual is defined as someone who studied in religious institutions from age 14 to 18. In other words, the law sets recruitment targets not from among current yeshiva students  but from among “graduates of the  Charedi education system.”

According to the draft, the targets have increased compared to the leaked version  8,160 bochurim  will be recruited in the first year to military and civilian service. After that, a decrease: 6,840 in the second year, 7,920 in the third, and in the fourth year no fewer than 8,500. From the fifth year onward, according to the draft, 50% of each annual cohort of Charedi-education graduates will be recruited. However, this includes those drafted into civilian service as well, not only military service.

In the draft prepared by the previous committee chair, Yuli Edelstein, only those who enlist in combat or combat-support roles are counted toward the quotas while all other forms of civilian service are not counted toward the recruitment quota.

Senior officials in Agudat Yisrael stated: “The matter is currently under review, and in the coming hours we will bring it before the leading Torah authorities for a decision.”

Reporter Amit Segal says at first glance, the draft-exemption law appears to set a dramatically higher initial recruitment target of 8,160. However, the first recruitment year actually spans a year and a half, because the first recruitment period is defined as ending on June 30, 2027. Only then will we begin to know whether the targets are being met at all, and the sanctions mechanism will begin.

23 comments:

  1. we will never thr Zionists, we dont care for the medina, we care for the medina. Zionists we survived 1939-1945 and stalin we will survive you

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    1. Survival isn't a be-all end-all. For what purpose? What plan could you offer to get us to that stated purpose? A plan that hasn't been tried already?

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    2. this is a pure shmad, they want us off the derech using "saturday" to eat chazer.

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    3. I fail to understand what the comparison is? The Nazis killed Jews. Zionist let us learn and thrive in eretz yisroel for over 65 years. Maybe you can explain this? As far as I know they are still allowing the yeshivas to grow as nobody is closing them. Please explain this to us simple people.

      I dont understand either the chutzpah and azus to robocall against gedolai yisroel roshai so maybe you can also explain that?

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    4. Also not a be-all & end-all.Are either the zoionists [& your charedim] allowing yahadus to flourish for the WHOLE community/country? Probably not

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  2. Charedim were drafted from 1948 (even earlier, informally) till 1980s.

    Why aren't students in DL yeshiva high schools considered exempt?

    Note, Eisenkot's was killed by Hamas protecting Arabs as per President Biden.

    It's only shmad cause charedi yeshivot don't have a strong system (like DL do.)

    Charedi RYs only object cause their money gravy train is coming to an end, or diminished. Note the flyers distributed today in Lakewood refer only to Slabodka Yeshiva, meaning the money raised is only to that Yeshiva's RY's slush fund. We still don't know where last year's fundraising went to, but the fact that the other RYs that accompanied him then are not here now, means they didn't get their due share.
    So it's all a money thing that they're masking as giyus.

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    1. DL yeshivos are a joke compared to the Chareidi yeshivos. Their level of learning and general ruchniyus are far below the Chareidi
      When DL bochurim "shtark out" they put on black hats and go to the Mir or Tomo, I never heard of a Chareidi bochur who wanted to grow in his ruchniyus and decided to go to a DL yeshiva. BTW this shtarking out doesn't happen anymore because DL kids are watching movies on their smartphones all day and couldn't care less about growing in ruchniyus, I heard this directly from a DL Rosh Yeshivah.
      The reason why a good percentage of DL bochurim aren't affected by the army service is because they aren't culturally shocked by the army. Much of the gender mingling, pritzus, kalus rosh and exposure to the secular media is part of their upbringing. However for a Chareidi bochur who lived a sheltered life to come to the "melting pot" of the army would be disastrous.

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    2. You're mixing up DL in America vs liberal yuppie DL vs frummer DL in Israel

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    3. So you would rather coarser youth & maidels used to pritzus.Got it.

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    4. The frummer yeshivos like Merkaz harav, Har Hamor are a small minority
      I'm referring to good yeshivos such as Gush and Shalavim where the learning level is nothing compared to the Chareidi yeshivos

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    5. I have never been to Gush Yeshivah but I can assure you that Rav Aharon Lichtenstein ZTL knew Kol Hatorah Kullah B'Iyun and was bigger, with all respect, than all the Chareidi Roshei Yeshivah.

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    6. 5:29
      The fellow who replied you get more mussar from Paradise Lost than from Tehillim
      He wife's uncle RAS screamed at him for it. 'nuf said.

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    7. I assure you that no one knows what your talking about. They don't know what Paradise Lost is , who RAS was and they don't know Tehillim!
      He did yell T him, he disagreed. But I assume you that RAS held from RAL infinitely more than today's Chareidi leaders.

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    8. a.Neither would most of those who quote him.He couldn't dwell on terra firma reality re:the public. Something he himself essentially reflected on more than once eg Jewish Action 2004.All the more so, with regards to the complexities of the modern yishuv.
      Might as well therefore pull up Chaim Zimmermann.

      b.Recently during the fracas his son came out [ED:for politics] against participation in the WZO.
      A public policy surely in blatant contradiction to his own.Take it up with the son.

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    9. Both of those Gaonim would agree, as opposed to today's "Daas Torah" that no Gadol is infallible, you should be able to find enough to criticize in our world and stay away from 2 people who knew Kol Hatorah Kula. Be carefull!

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    10. Not completely disagreeing with your general premise
      Nonetheless rephrase please the prestigious term you bestowed to illuyim R'Shneur z"l would put it: if they are still calling somebody an illuy at 80,
      something is off

      Worthy of note: during the geirus controversy of 2008 RAL was less than fully genuine & disingenuous in his party line deflection of R' Drukman & attack on R'Sherman

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    11. Is RAL the only
      Talmid chochom that you have ha"aros on?
      Chareidi gedolim are totally consistent ?
      If you're referring to knowing kol haTorah, 8 don't undetstand your point. It's a show of rare gadlus.

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    12. a.whataboutism
      b.He exhibited pleasure at the path his son Yitzchok was traversing
      c.Having information isn't everything.

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  3. https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:US:b19cb704-1b67-4fd8-b5d8-4f7722716d15?viewer%21megaVerb=group-discover

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  4. A Summary excerpted from the Bismuth Draft Law

    Granting a deferment to yeshiva members - The Minister of Defense may defer service to a yeshiva member who meets the conditions of the law, taking into account the security needs of the State of Israel (Article #26:4).

    The conditions for deferment are: a yeshiva student who (1) studies at least 45 hours a week for bochurim (to keep that in perspective, that means 8 hours a day and 5 hours over Friday-Shabbos), and 40 hours a week for avreichim, (2) who is not engaged in any other occupation whatsoever, (3) and has submitted an affidavit signed by an authorized signatory from a yeshiva recognized by the Ministry of Defense. The law also states that the yeshiva vacation days will be determined by the Minister of Defense (Article #26:5)

    Immediate sanctions on all yeshiva members – a ben yeshiva will be prohibited from obtaining a driver’s license, from leaving the country, and will be deprived of credit points. These sanctions apply immediately upon the law’s entry into force, to all yeshiva members (including those who receive a deferral) and regardless of meeting the goals (Article #26:16:1)

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  5. Recruitment targets – The law sets annual recruitment targets that gradually increase. In the first year 4,800 (although the committee’s attorney general currently is demanding an increase to 5,700), and then 5,760, then 6,840, then 7,920, and then in the fifth year, 50 percent of the total number of yeshiva students, while in the sixth year the law states that the Minister of Defense will determine the number according to various factors but in any case not less than 50 percent. Civilian security service will be included in the targets, but only up to 10 percent of the target, meaning that 90 percent of the target will be in regular military service. (Article 26:13)

    Sanctions in the event of failure to meet targets – the law states that if the targets are not met, after the first year 100% of the budget for yeshiva students who receive deferrals will be denied from the yeshiva (as is the current situation, where budgets are denied for all those obligated in conscription). In addition the following sanctions will be imposed on all bnei yeshivos: denial of subsidized childcare, denial of eligibility to purchase an apartment under governmental, cancellation of the discount on National Insurance payments, and cancellation of discounts on public transportation (which for many areas is 50%). In the second and third years even more sanctions will be imposed including the cancellation of the exemption from purchase tax on a first apartment and more. (The cancellation of the exemption from purchase is more serious than it sounds, because it will mean that every Chareidi young couple buying their first apartment will end up paying 100,000 shekel more than anyone else buying that same property) (Article #26:16:2-3-4)

    Audit and Enforcement – The law states that the Minister of Defense is obligated to appoint inspectors (as opposed to previous laws in which it was merely "authorized" to appoint inspectors) according to a specific ratio, so that for each number of bnei yeshiva there will be an inspector, with the inspector being obligated to conduct an audit every three months (Amendment to Article #49:1-8)

    Enforcement – In a step unprecedented in any previous law, the law establishes severe sanctions for the Rosh Yeshiva (or any other authorized representative of the yeshiva) who signs a postponement that is found to be invalid. For every student found by the inspector who does not meet the conditions of the deferral (for example, who signed a deferral for a bochur who does not actually study 45 hours a week), the yeshiva head will be personally fined 1,500 shekel. And if the Director General of the Ministry of Defense has "reasonable grounds to assume" that 5 percent of the yeshiva's students did not meet the conditions for the deferral there is an additional fine of 20,000 shekel (with an additional fine of the same amount for each repeated offense), as well as being a criminal offense punishable by up to 5 years in prison. For the student himself who is found not to meet the conditions of the deferral (such as being absent during the inspection or not studying 45 hours a week, as above), a warning will be sent to the yeshiva head, and the second time he is found to have done the deferral will be revoked (Article #26:20)

    Validity of the law – The law is valid for 6 years, with the possibility of extending it provided that the recruitment goals have been met for 4 out of 6 years. But after even only 3 years of not meeting the goals, the law stipulates that discussions will be held regarding legislative changes, etc., in order to achieve compliance with the goals.

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  6. Interfering with Roshei Yeshiva, and invalidating a yeshiva from the arrangement - According to the law, a yeshiva is prohibited from withholding information about the options for a military career from the bochurim. The penalty for this is determined by the revocation of Section 46 from the yeshiva (i.e. it will no longer be recognized as a charitable institution.) But more serious is the section that states that a Rosh Yeshiva who orders his bochurim not to report for registration and tests will have his yeshiva removed from the possibility of receiving a deferral. That means that if a bochur was denied a deferral for any reason and has received an order to report for conscription procedures (a "First Summons"), the Rosh Yeshiva cannot tell him not to report, and if he does then all the yeshiva members will find themselves without a deferral! (Article #26:3)

    Legalizing the status of those who have not filed in the past year – the law states that those who have not filed in the past year will not be subject to legal proceedings provided that they have met the other conditions for receiving a deferral. That includes that they have not engaged in any registered occupation. So any yeshiva bochur or avreich who had a legal pay slip in his name over the last year, for whatever reason, will have no possibility for an exemption.

    A few more insights from the law: The law also stipulates that the status of a woman in the military will not be affected by the fact that Chareidim serve as well, meaning that any attempt to make frameworks for frum boys without mixing with female soldiers will be almost impossible legally. (Article #26:21). Another clause is that special "chareidi" pre-military schools (for youths before military service) will be established (Article 26:25)

    Mandatory reporting to the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee –The law requires reporting to the Committee every 3 months regarding the implementation of all the conditions of the law: the number of inspectors appointed, the number of inspections that took place, and the number of warnings given to yeshivos that did not meet the conditions. In this way, the law ensures close supervision of the inspections, preventing any unofficial use of "connections" to avoid being reported. (Article 26:28)

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    1. US also forbids colleges from discouraging voluntary recruitment. Penalty is loss of government funding.
      All colleges comply.

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