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- Hate in Lakewood: A frum young man in his mid-twenties was hospitalized after a brutal, unprovoked attack in Lakewood, NJ on October 18, 2025. The assault occurred on Vermont Avenue near Chestnut and rt 70 while the victim was walking with two friends. A man suddenly exited a vehicle and violently attacked the group, leaving one with a serious leg injury. Lakewood Police and Hatzolah responded quickly, and the victim is in stable condition. Authorities are actively investigating and searching for the suspect.
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- Keren Olam HaTorah delegation headed out from EY tonight to the US. delegation of gedolei Eretz Yisroel.Harav Dov Landau, Harav Chaim Peretz Berman (Rosh Yeshiva of Ponovezh, visiting America for the first time), Harav Eliezer Yehuda Finkel (Rosh Yeshiva of Mir Yerushalayim), and Harav Avraham Salim — will be traveling to the United States, with stops in Cleveland and Los Angeles, to garner further financial support for Keren Olam HaTorah.
- Massive Rally in Manhattan tomorrow joined by both Satmar factions in front of the Israeli consulate to protest the gezeiras giyus of recent draft law arresting yeshiva students. The Hisachdus Harabonim has issued a letter calling on people to attend. There will be transportation from Lakewood l.
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- Thousands of people lined the Route 35 bridge linking Red Bank and Middletown on Oct. 18, where they held signs and protested President Donald Trump's policies part of a national movement involving thousands of "No Kings" demonstrations across the nation.
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glad us litvaks are finally following the Satmar mehalech to actively fight the shmad Zionist entity and see the medina collapse. aguda by being in the knesset is shituf to this anti torah Zionist shmad
ReplyDeleteAny Litvish RYs attending? Where will the buses be leaving from?
DeleteWho joined?
DeleteUs litvaks had and have our Rys such as R' Reuven who explain that joining the knesset is not considered being a shutaf to the anti-torah zionist shmad.
DeleteTry again.
That’s not what he said, he says clearly it’s 100% ossur but is allowed with 7 tanoim for pikuach nefesh and one of the tanoim is public protests so no one should think that we agree with the Zionists.
DeleteOur gedolim including Rav Ahron K, Rav Moshe F, Rav Yaakov K, Rav Ruderman, Rav Henkin, Rav Pam, Rav Zelig Epstein, Rav Shmuel K shlita among many others held the Satmar shita is wrong and we must try with the Israeli government to achieve results which BH they did. In the current crisis our gedolim led by Rav Dov and Rav moshe Hillel in EY and our gedolim here in America (aside from REBW and RMK who few people follow except for those who love kannaus) reject the satmar approach in favor of dialogue and recognize the reality that most Israelis today are NOT out to destroy frumkeit rather only a small but powerful and vocal minority. Statements from a hundred years ago do not relate to reality you can see with your eyes.
DeleteAvi - hate to break it to you but your out to lunch. You obviously have no clue as to why the Agudah joined the Knesset and what it means to protest I’d advise you to read bayos hazman from reb reuven and if you want more in depth explanation the empty wagon by Rav Yakov Shapiro.
DeleteIf you don’t know about a topic or are unsure no one will hold it against you to just not comment
Satmar shita is a daas yochid why should anyone from Lakewood be gores?
Delete@abe where do you get your information from?
DeleteInstead of using catch phrases like das yachid and shita please explain which view of satmars is satmars only and what that has to do with protesting about Giyus which many rabanim (such as reb Moshe and reb yaakov just to name a couple) have done so
Reb Reuvein was niftar 70 years ago. The whole purpose of Bayis Hazman - as it’s name suggests - was to address a specific era. Obviously, some things have changed since then, including the fact that a protest in the fifties was known to the people who they were protesting and the people who read the two paragraph article on page fifteen in the paper, if it got in.
DeleteToday you have an audience of millions of New Yorkers just looking to feel better about voting for Mamdani and supporting his policies.
R Reuven was not consulted by the Agudah in Israel before joining so his ideological rationale is irrelevant as the gedolim in EY (Chazon ish Belzer rebbe r Zalman sorotzkin ponovezh Rav were more moderate . Jake Shapiro’s book is to be ignored as it’s full of lies and he goes on Al jazeera to cheer attacks on Israel soldiers and encourages Palestinian rights which has even been rejected by satmar and is a spokesperson for neturei karta. If you’d search a little online most sane frum yidden would be appalled by the hatred and stupidity he shares on Arab media as the lone yid atttacking Israel and celebrating terror against yidden.
Delete@1055 Daas yochid of satmar is its extreme anti Zionism. Most gedolim after the state was established have been non Zionist meaning indifferent to the the state but opposed to government actions against frum jews such as autopsies against Halacha and primarily against drafting yeshiva bochurim not because of anti Zionism but because experience has shown serving in the army weakens ones frumkeit.
DeleteOy mensch between 5:59 /Avi / & 6:17 (all the same person) the lack of knowledge you display in the this topic is astounding
Delete1) if you want to say that what Reb Reuven said is not nogeah bc it was for that time only than by default your left with leaving the Knesset as did rav shmuel switch and rav shmuel Auerbach for that reason
2)Avi the stupidity is astounding the only reason the Agudah joined was bc of Reb reuven! If you don’t know don’t say it’s embarrassing. And besides the fact that you have a lot of yeshiva and mechila to do for being motzeh laz on a tzadik and talmid chacham muflag i challenge you to provide one source just one where Rabbi Shapiro went on a news site or podcast to cheer on Israeli boulders getting killed or Palestinian rights all I’m asking is one source (give up now cuz there are none) or where he has any connection to neturei karta if you read his book which you obviously didn’t you’d see where he talks about what’s wrong with neturei karta.
I’m sure you’ll also call Maran Rav Eli ber and the gaavad neturei karta too as they gave haskamos and encourage others to read it as well
3) no satmar is not daas yochid with anti Zionism no gedolim are indifferent to the state Chas vshalom! Even if you have a kosher lmehadrin program in the idf no gadol would say to join please listen to rav dov landaus video of why not to enlist your lack of knowledge is astounding if you don’t know just say “I don’t know”
beShaato we are all aware of the incident when Satmar Rov had to be mefayes Rav Elya Meir Bloch and came to Cleveland to do such
DeleteRav Ahron Rav Moshe Rav Yaakov Rav Henkin Rav Ruderman Rav Hutner all talmidim of the Alter and All
Of the Talmidim of Rav Ahron and all of the Talmidim of Mir and Beis HaTalmud all distanced themselves from shitas Satmar
In particular they all did not endorse airing infighting amongst Jews in public
The only ones who push this are the two brothers who can’t even come to terms on a beis din to adjudicate their internal dispute and have been dreying in erkoaos
To these brothers we should listen ?
Abe your so lost no that’s not true you won’t be able to provide any one gadol who said “not to air infighting” you know why not beacuse it’s the dumbest svarah. Besides the fact the Reb Moshe protested together with the satmar rav fighting for hashem is a kiddush hashem standing by and letting reshayim get away with there rishus is a chiull hashem! If hashem can’t count on us who can he count on to stand up for the Torah ?(seemed like you checked out)
DeleteThe decision of the Israeli Gedolim to vote in the Knesset was not based on the views of Reb Reuven. Documentation from various Gedolim in Eretz Yisroel does not reference Reb Reuven, even as a supporting opinion. Even Reb Reuven asserts that the final psak should be determined by Gedolim in Eretz Yisroel rather than those in Chutz La'aretz.
DeleteSatmar’s stance was, almost universally, regarded as an outlier, wrong, extreme, and non-traditional across Klal Yisroel. Nobody viewed the Satmar Rav personally in a negative light, but his opinions on Zionism and association with the wicked were strongly rejected. Sitting with him at a demonstration over a specific issue is irrelevant.
Satmar believed Zionism was intrinsically a heretical belief – a rejection of Moshiach as our final savior. Using legal creativity and logical leaps, he twists that opinion into the sources. Almost no Gedolim accepted this - from the Chafetz Chaim to the Brisker Rav, and the Tchebiner Rav to the Kapischnitzer Rebbe, none at all. Of course, no one denies that Zionist leaders were heretics and dangerous to Klal Yisroel. Nobody can dispute the fact that many people abandoned Judaism through the Zionists. But that is not the same as Satmar's view, and the differences have many ramifications. We can believe Zionism is wrong, but it is not inherently heretical. Shapiro lies and obfuscates, and his book should be used as kindling for Lag Ba’omer fires lit in Cheshvan. Haskamos are not proof of anything, especially in these cases.
Satmar believed that voting in the Knesset was a voluntary act of joining up with the wicked ones. Virtually all Gedolim disagreed, claiming that in Hungary they voted for representatives of the National Jewish Council under Franz Joseph, even when the majority were irreligious and anti-religious. When we are forced to submit to our rulers, protecting our ability to keep Torah and Mitzvos will never happen through symbolic acts of rejection. The state is not an organization we voluntarily submit to, they have the guns and the jails, we have no way of ignoring them like we could in Europe. We must enshrine our rights in law, and fight in ways that are likely to produce results.
Reb Aaron Kotler held that the Satmar shita is not a shita, he didn’t merely disagree with the Satmar Rav, he believed that this was not even Beis Shammai. (Superfluously, I will repeat that this disagreement was not personal, it was merely ideological.)
Not voting means allowing the government to do what it wants to us. Not voting means that the wicked ones will have full control. Nothing changed since 1948 in that respect, and not voting nowadays is just as irresponsible as it was then.
lol
DeleteYou literally just made up a piece of history
Rav Moshe never publicly protested anything to do with Medina with Satmar
The shita of all of the Gedolim mentioned earlier was not to publicly condemn the Medina in a public arena
There was an exception made when Rav Ahron Leib ztl asked for such a protest and Rav Elya Svei ztl said publicly that we did it because he instructed us to
In Satmar its done more like a sport
It keeps them busy and excited
It’s not a place for a Litvishe person who gets a geshmak from learning
Anon 915 aka Abe
DeleteJust to name one Reb Moshe protested with the satmar rebbe on autopsies being done in ey where Reb Moshe spoke (hence the famous picture) but you keep spreading your nonsense
I’m realizing this is not a conversation you have no knowledge of this topic and just keep spewing false information.
I see when asked to back up your claims about Harav Shapiro you change tones and now say he lies? Please provide one place where he lied everything in the book has a source. And yes although haskamos don’t mean that much but if you read the haskama you’ll see that Reb Eli ber speaksabout ppl like you who know nothing.
99% of the information your writing is simply false so I’m gonna stop here.
On headlines Halacha number 447 is posted some of shapiros ramblings. Any search of Al Jazeera show Shapiro saying awful things. As stated above attending one protest doesn’t mean they hold it’s the usual approach.
Deletelol
DeleteWe are not the same person
I challenge you to give me a reference to where I can see that alleged picture of the protest with Rav Moshe and Satmar Rebbe at a protest
And by the way anon and I are not the same person
So enjoy the keegel at the very exciting come one come all carnival protest
If you’re gonna be a burnt out litvak at the event it’s not going to any fun
Anon 915 what a dumb post really like so dumb and is “Shapiro”you’re referring to R Shapiro of the empty wagon among many of the seforim he wrote? I hope not because if your referring to R Shapiro I don’t envy your gehennom for talking about him like that
DeleteAnon 11:44 yes I heard that Halacha headlines you call it ramblings but who are you? Mainstream talmidei chachamim call it Torah
DeleteSearched Al Jazeera can’t find him anywhere can you please provide a link? (Again you won’t be able to )
Abe apologies if you’re not anon though hard to believe as you’re both spewing hate and lies here’s a link to a picture just searched quickly https://youtu.be/mtb-F9ByiWI?si=PfZNLNnfbXhz-kq2
And again “Anon” you know nothing and instead are being motzeh laz on talmidei chachamim and tzadikim teshuva would be to take down your posts admit your wrong and ask Harav Shapiro for mechilah directly if your ego and akshanus make it hard to do well I guess that’s part of the yetzer hara you’ll have to overcome it but this is definitely not worth having on your plate
Thank you for the link
DeleteJust as I said
That was no outdoor protest in the streets it was very much between us and our own
We’re talking about this idea of taking it too the umos HaOlam that is what the Roshei HaYeshiva are and were against
Again I am all for Satmar to do their thing this is their identity and they cannot survive without it much like camps cannot survive without competitive sports
They do this all the time and carry on their lives afterwards like nothing happened
It’s when my people, the litvaks try and embrace this
They get all bent out of shape and twist themselves in knots when they are accused of being Hungarian Chasidim
Belz Ger Boyan Stolin are not on board with Satmar either only mosdos that rely on Satmar funding join
Brisker Rov never would have attended such a rally - vehoraya - the briskers in EY don’t attend these Satmar parties The only ones who really gets ulcers about this are the litvaks who try and straddle both worlds
Patently Incorrect.
DeleteR'Leizer Silver held like that( we don't protest ever in front of umos haolam). In general, he was ignored.
8:44 -- even Rav Meir Kahana hy"d was vehemently against demonstrating against Israeli government in chu"l.
DeleteNothing against rallying for Israel.
Abe having a conversation with you is like discussing geometry with a 2 yr old you understand and know nothing. Which is ok no one’s mechuyav to know everything but that’s why siyug lachachma Shteka…. I didn’t realize you’re so clever the only issue is protesting outdoors but indoors where everyone will know about it though the media (as is one of the points) that is ok? When satmar had a protest in the barclays center a few years ago that you are ok with? Btw these “?” are rhetorical as you don’t know the answers yourself you’re just making stuff up out of the blue.
DeleteAnd you say belz stolin ger don’t protest maybe that’s beacuse they get money from the Medina ever thought bout that and now they’re stuck?
Maybe the reason why they’re there don’t protest is because they’re reliant on Donors such as why bmg backed out last minute at the public protest in foley square.
And this svarah about brisk wow! You’re a gaon! You stumped klal yisroel O wait can you confirm but I’m like 99.999999% sure that r Eli ber who I think we can assume is a brisker spoke at that protest in foley square ( the same one bmg was forced to abandon ) in the public streets in manhattan so now we’re left with a kasha on you’re made up svara nunu im sure you’re information is from very reliable sources
FYI the protests in ey are joined by brisk all the time.
FYI #2 calling the litvaks your people is next level of sinas chinam you’re only connection to another litvaks the fact that your yidden and if you that if someone’s a chassid or a yeki theyre less Jewish than you and they’re not your people you got a lot of soul searching to do
From the last 24 hrs I see there is not one true point you made you’re ego must be pretty big if you keep rambling on an intangible you clearly never took 2 seconds to understand
Will Mamdani speak at Satmar protest
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DeleteWhat "experience and plans" does Sherrill have?
ReplyDeleteMore hot air from known anti semite Obama!
Busses leaving from Lakewood to protest Manhattan
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Big Omer Adam concert tomorrow in Manhattan
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DeleteWhat a disgrace. These people have only one mitzva: Sinas yisrael. Everything is justified including chilul hashem in order to keep on performing the only mitzva they are medaled on.
ReplyDeletethey are saving Yidden from Zionist shmad, how is that sinas yisroel? the sina is the Zionists courts shutting down mechitzas in shul on yom kippur as they do
DeleteAvi,Would agree with your post,
Deleteexcept insofar for "rather only a small but"
a.Either they aren't so small(street protests prove that)
b. Or they continue & will still be in control & predominate.In spite of everything we have tried
- with probable idiotic collusion of more than half the public
Many claim by comparison: Gaza, in the PA,the "reality that most today are NOT out to destroy" Israel "rather only a small but"
iirc polls in Gaza pro -Hamas aren't much different than polls in Israel supporting the present laico-klepto kakiscratic system
Same with China;North Korea
recognize "the reality that most today are NOT out to destroy the" norms of the western democratic system "rather only a small but "
Does it matter
Avi,6:19 is a false premise
DeleteAgudah( Itchie meir & co*)didn't really consult with just about anybody re: joining.They essentially asked post facto.
Furthermore, most of the "moderates" who were pro eg R'TP Frank later expressed qualms & misgivings.
They weren't" more moderate" except in technique.
If anything, we nowadays are "more moderate"They stated that we Must fight so that nonreligious FREI girls don't get drafted!Agudah ignored that & struck their compromise!
*Once R Moshe Blau was assassinated,they took free reign
Typo you prob meant to write Sinat Yisroel
ReplyDeleteMorning Consult wrote: “With a 71% approval rating among voters in Vermont, independent Bernie Sanders is America’s most popular senator, retaking his spot from fellow Vermonter Peter Welch (D), who has a 66% approval rating among the state’s voters.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like I`ve hit the nail on the head.
ReplyDeleteYou are the Litvak who gets more caught up than Satmar in this all .
Trust me today if a Satmar guy gets the contract to sell toilet paper to Tzahal he will be more than happy to fill the order.
For Satmar public protests are like tishen . They are enjoyable family and friends time .
It`s only the Ingrisher turned Litvaks who get all farnerved and farshimmelt from this all .
From day one Ger Belz and Stolin have had zero direction from Satmar .
Why is calling Litvak my people sinas chinam ? I am one of them my family is actually from Lita BH where learning Torah reigned supreme .
The reason for not going to a protest in public is simple we dont try to give the goyim another reason to have sinas Yisrael no matter who the Jew is.
It simply is not worth it .
Nituchei meisim protests weren't in front of goyim??!
DeleteThe modern & conservodox held it was wrong for Moshe Sherrer to break ranks & go to the Public hearing for Parochial schools
RAK told MS to ignore tgem
@Rabbi Abe you seem like a big Talmud chacham and Baki in this sugya I’m going to give you a few mareh mekomos a little homework regarding protesting in public the following are 2 mareh mekomos of gedolim who stressed the importance of PROTESTING PUBLICLY in CHUTZ LAARETZ
Delete1) Rav Shach (Michtavim Umamrim #113
2)The Steipler (karyana digarta chelek gimmel # 416)
Famously Rav Avigdor Miller wrote and ad in the New York Times for the satmar rebbe in English against a mixed swimming pool in yerushalyim
4)Regarding Briskers who said are against protesting check out the brisker rav book vol 3 p121 you’ll see there what he says about the importance of protesting in chutz laaretz
5) kisvei Reb Mendel zaks p293 has a picture of Reb Mendel at a PUbLiC protest together with Rav avraham kalmanowitz and the satmar rebbe
These are but a few I don’t have all day to educate you before you talk think that applies writing/typing as well good night
Abe was there a sign somewhere that said stop using your brains? Again you’re just assuming one thing after another why would you all this? Based on any information? Hard to answer you’re so called questions when they’re just made up out of the blue
ReplyDeleteIf you consider yourself a Lithuanian nationalbut if the reason is the Torah whether your a litvak or a chassid sefardi or yeki you have the same Torah the same hashem and that’s your people whether you like it or not. To separate yourself from someone beacuse of minhagim and where they come from and saying they’re not your people sounds like you don’t identify as a yid.And learning Torah reigned supreme? Again nonsense ever heard of the divrei Chaim or of the satmar ruv? If not ever heard of rav Meir Shapiro? Anything wrong with there torahs?
And this last comment of yours again i hope you don’t use these svaras for learning as that counter acts you previous line of Torah being supreme by litvaks
Explain please the thought process of a boy when he hears about this protest how he ends up hating Jews more? How?on the contrary I thing it distinguishes between the goyims taynahs on Israel as a Zionist ideology and Judaism as a religion and they see o let’s not attack Jews for what Israel is doing they’re not responsible for Israel actions (And remember tread lightly bc the goyim knew that reb Moshe protested as well regarding autopsies)
It depends on how it is presented.These protests,if fair & neat (rare to impossible for Satmar)impress some quarters of non-jews
DeletePlease name 3 sefarim used in any of the BMG botei medrash not in the library but being used as tools for havanas amukus ha sugya that have been written by Satmar Chasidim
DeleteI can’t believe that you equate two brothers who have been fighting each other in erkaos shel nochrim and can’t agree on a beis din to the Divrei Chaim and Rav Meir Shapiro maybe that’s where you err
Abe- I see your dropping all your major svaros and chachmos you’ve been saying earlier
DeleteBut if you want to focus on the chassidim part as a lamdan like yourself I’m sure you do realize that the derech halimud of satmar or any Hungarian or even polishes is a different derech halimud than the litvaks which would make sense that the” havanas amkus Hasugya” as you describe it which if I were to guess means you’ve learned a total of 6 Blatt in your life will not be found in sefarim with the Hungarian or polishe derech halimud
No one is Chas vshalom equating the current satmar rebbes to the divrei Chaim and Rav Meir Shapiro I only mentioned them bc you said “ I am one of them my family is actually from Lita BH where learning Torah reigned supreme .” Which sounds to me that your saying this not from lita such as the divrei Chaim the divre Yoel rav Meir Shapiro just to name of a few out of many many others the Torah didn’t reign supreme to them I would think that in Lublin Torah reigned supreme no? What do you think?
Lublin was a wonderful mosad but for some reason it never matched its counterparts in Lita
DeleteBoys from Poland went to learn in Kaminetz but boys from Kaminetz and the like didn’t go to Lublin
But that’s really immaterial
Rav Shapira has been castigated by the entire Satmar community
They love making fun of the entire thing
But you have not answered why would any level headed Ben Torah throw away what the previous generations have shown us and follow these bnei holchei erkaos?
If they can’t agree on a beis din how can anyone take their deios seriously
They just do this hafgana stuff all as a sport
Abe no one’s following them we’re following the me spray of rav shach the steipler the brisker rav and the divrei Yoel all of whom wrote the importance of PUBLICY PROTESTING in chutz laaretz against policies by the Israeli govt that are opposing yiddeshkeit as well as Reb Moshe Reb Aharon Reb yakov who have all encouraged protesting as well
DeleteNow that you showed off your am haratzes about this inyan finish your 3 lines of Gemara you have been “klerring” about for the last 6 months that you’re still not “klar” about if you don’t know don’t talk or type
P.S I hope you don’t consider yourself a lamdan