Tuesday, September 9, 2025

Busing Woes

This was sent out by a bus provider supposedly  due to insurance issues.

Dear Parents,
We apologize for the late text, but we were just notified by LSTA that your daughter’s bus will not be running their routes tomorrow morning. LSTA apologizes on behalf of Seman Tov’s total cancellation of its routes and is working hard to rectify the situation. We will keep you updated on the PM routes.

Submitted.
"So the bussing situation is now officially pathetic with Seman Tov off the roads... Kids are getting home close to 2 hours after dismissal this isn't acceptable. Waiting at school for close to an hour and then on the bus for another hour and sometimes longer. Some routes just dome make sense having the bus pick up a route and then expected to be at the next school 25 minutes later, so what's happening is its getting to the school 45 minutes or more later and that's 20-30 minutes after the 2nd schools dismissal. It's not acceptable for LSTA to claim routes are filled if this is how it's being done. Someone better figure this out ASAP. I guess the schools are under pressure to accept the routes because they're the ones suffering with the early/late arrival and late departures of the students. I picked up my child from school at dismissal 1 day and there was not a bus in sight. The busses should be lined up in front of a school at dismissal time".

Local officials remain silent

It’s the start of a new school year, and once again the busing headaches are back.
Back when the BOE handled transportation for private schools, askanim never hesitated to speak out. If a bus came late, if routes were too long, or if pickups were missed, there were press conferences, media coverage, and plenty of public pressure.
But ever since the LSTA took over responsibility for transporting yeshiva students, it’s been a different story. Suddenly, there’s silence. Local politicians and school officials have nothing to say, while LSTA officials keep repeating their favorite line: “We’re busing 50,000 kids a day, not everything will be perfect.”
That may sound nice, but parents know the truth it’s far from perfect. Drivers are stretched thin, covering multiple routes in the mornings. Some kids are dragged out of the house before dawn, while others arrive to school a half hour late. In the afternoons, children are sitting on buses for over an hour and a half just to get home.

The sad part is that solutions exist. For instance, neighborhoods could be picked up and dropped off together, instead of every school running its own set of routes. But schools have resisted that idea, and so the problems drag on, year after year, with no accountability and no real change.



22 comments:

  1. Chaval. Indicative of a larger issue going on.

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  2. Manchester and PLP some schools share routes. I'm not saying the routes are any shorter. But it's being done. I'm the days of old Lakewood the Cheder and BF girls and boys went on the same bus they did what needed to be done. What's wrong if a few girls schools on the same block and some boys schools on the same block combine routes and help the situation? Routes would be shorter I assume.

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  3. Once they get the bussing running properly we will all sing Seman Tov Umazal Tov.

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  4. It's time for zone busing

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  5. If you bus by neighborhood, you'll have to mix boys and girls on the same bus.
    Which isn't a bad idea (shocking, brothers and sisters can ride together!) but the rabbonim in town would oppose.

    You'll also cut down on bus traffic congestion. Maybe you won't have to widen the 9.

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    1. Which isn't a bad idea?!!!

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    2. My cheder boys and my Bais Yaakov girls (Pre the name Bais Faiga) went on the same bus. If it was allowed back in the 80s, why isn't it allowed now? Have the halachos changed or have we become very confused?

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    3. The only K-8 school till the 80/90s was coed.
      Rav Schneur z"l sent his children there.

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  6. Had a similar thing a few years ago in a day camp with Seman Tov pulling out at the last minute

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  7. "Seman tov update for afternoon- unfortunately their issue has not been resolved thus for this afternoon, their operation is still off-line for all the districts that they service. We will send an update later this evening about tomorrow morning routes.(lsta )"

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  8. Zone busing doesn't necessarily require "mixed bussing".
    They may also need to alter boys vs girls start times, change Sunday to Friday for girls off day etc...
    The bottom line is, the entire system needs analyzation, but by independents who only stand to make sense of it, not dollars (pun intended)

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  9. Why can’t they just do an analysis? Analyzation sounds a bit harsh

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  10. Seman Tov will be running tomorrow as per the schools my kids go to. Text just received.

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  11. Fwd: Seman tov - Announcement Regarding School Transportation
    Firstly we Thank G-d that our insurance issue has been resolved. We are pleased to announce that we have successfully secured the necessary insurance, and our transportation services will resume tomorrow morning.
    We extend our sincere gratitude to Assemblyman Avi Schnall for his invaluable assistance and tireless efforts in helping us navigate this challenging period. His support was instrumental in resolving this issue.
    We also want to thank the school districts for their patience and understanding. To the parents, we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and disruption this has caused you and your children. We are committed to working diligently to regain your trust and provide the reliable service you deserve.

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  12. Private bussing like most schools in NY is the way to go. Enough with these money hungry companies, all they doo is take the money and don’t provide any services.

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  13. Totally private bussing is rhe way to go. My daughters dismissal is 440 the bus showed up 520 the bus driver told the girls he has a route that starts at 445!!! There needs to be accountability for all this mess!!! It's not acceptable!!!

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  14. Avi Schnalls silence here is deafening
    He's busy with PR about seman Tov buses but has not spoken out about the horrible service of the LSTA uts unacceptable that he takes no responsibility while he was involved from the beginning by taking it away from BOE and giving control to LSTA that has ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY OR OVERSIGHT

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    1. Were you expecting any different?

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  15. The only answer is to d what the chasidish schools do.
    Own their own busses.
    This way the schools aren't beholden to the bus companies.
    It's quite ridiculous that girl schools end at 11 on Fridays because of busing.
    Have we completely lost our minds?

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    1. Yes, in NY school bussing is a profit center for yeshivot, plus not subject to scholarship or other discounts.
      Plus a few years ago, Agudah got the state to buy busses for Agudah-6preferred yeshivot.

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  16. Where are all the local politicians that want our votes???? Getting a vote means standing up for the citizens that voted for you not for the ones that line your pockets when they need your help. That's unethical and unacceptable!!!

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