Tuesday, August 8, 2017

Jackson Inspection Dept to issue Summons For Eruv Poles

Jackson Inspection Dept now issues warning over Eruv poles the same ordnance forbids the placement of basketball hoops in the street. The ordnance is obviously meant to target and outlaw the Eruv and they added the other items to make it appear as if it's not only against the Eruv.


34 comments:

  1. So obtain permission in writing. End of story. I wouldn't compare an Eruv to basketball hoops in the street, an Eruv is an obvious territory marking religious article. It's quite understandable why people would be anxious about it. Especially when no effort is made to educate others on it's utility to those who do not understand it.

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    1. Your naivete is charming. The offices of the municipal government in Jackson have been instructed to obstruct anything from the Orthodox community in Jackson. From minor requests to routine permissions, they set up as many hoops as possible.

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    2. Jackson sets up hoops for everyone in the township, especially when it comes to permits. It's not just the Orthodox community.

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    3. Alumni Beis EliyahuAugust 9, 2017 at 6:38 AM

      Some of the eruvin put up in Lakewood especially the ones that try and satisfy a tzuras hapesach pachus mei`eser amos are extreme eyesores.
      In any event why are Lakewooders using such eruvin ? The opinion of bnei yeshiva has always been to stay away from such shaila ridden issues.
      I guess the oilam rescinded that mehalech

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    4. Alumni beis Eliyahu - it is a good thing that they gave it up. Chumros are not for the public. Let each person decide himself on the chumros he wants to keep.

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  2. So is it anti Semitic? Is it not? Avi schnall please advise. Thanks.

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  3. Where is agudah now.

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  4. You won't get permission. End of story. Are you so naive to believe you will get permission for this.

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  5. Where are you living. In Mahwah they very gently tried to educate about the utility of it. Did that help ?

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  6. No more real estate signs or signs advertising a garage sale. No more basketball hoops even the cemented ones

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  7. This is only on public property. You can do basketball on your property. Probably eruv pole also. Just not on the street or sidewalk. I think. Not sure

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  8. Al Pi Halacha how can you have an eruv without government agreement in an area that not all resident agree to having it?

    Are the Eruvin in Jackson only between frum neighbors? Did the non-Jewish neighbors all agree to participate? Did the Jackson police give permission even with the summons?

    (My guess all of the above depending on the Eruv but I want to hear from someone who knows)

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    1. I know you need some form of "schirat reshut" rental of the area. The land isn't owned by the utility company, only the pole is. (There are workouts, and the MB is pretty liberal about this, but . . .

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    2. Three don't need to own the pole, you just need to do sechiras reshus from someone who has rights to access the property (a opposed to outright owning it) such as the utilities or the police. That's why you don't need permission from every resident of the town.

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    3. Utility companies have the right of access into people's houses?

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  9. funny things is town cant stop it on private property so it wil still bother the bigots who complained....plus legally may not be able to stop it on the row....

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  10. will they allow Jackson strong signs?

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  11. How is affixing a pole to an existing utility pole encumbering public access? A wire doesn't encumber access, it is above pedestrian height. If a pole is found who will get the fine?
    How many violations have been given in the last five years for basketball hoops or signs??
    It's time for the Federal govt to step in and put an end to the obvious antisemitism that is taking place by these established govt bodies and agencies.

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    1. Would u be ok if the local church put a cross on every telephone pole in your neighborhood??

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    2. Yes.it would be fine. It is fine that there is Christmas decorations on Clifton Ave. And fine that someone currencies have a cross in the design.

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    3. Clearly a terrible analogy (eruv poles and crosses). An eruv is not a religious symbol (despite the fact that it solves a religious problem). A cross is. Putting an eruv pole on every pole is a requirement (to comply with the laws of eruvin) and thus the practice of doing so is not making any sort of religious statement. Putting a cross on every pole is. That said, perhaps it's not clear to our fellow non orthodox residents, and we can use the loudmouths ....to help educate and get the word out, rather than suing...

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    4. The fact that they are both for religious purposes puts them in the same catagory. Both are hanging thus both are illegal without prior approval from the township. Go make your case and get approved.

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  12. The eruv poles is between 2 homes but goes over the sidewalk to push strollers

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  13. lawsuit time...jackson is self desroying themselves...sudden inforcement is illegal

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    1. It's not illegal if they are enforcing the laws for everyone, which it appears that they are.

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  14. I guess this will be good for Lakewood's real estate market. Who wants to live in a neighborhood with no eruv?!

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  15. You can always move to mahwa nj.

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  16. The eruv rav are at it again!
    Who u gonna call? The eruv rav!

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  17. Welcome to our beautiful town of Jackson. Why do you expect special treatment? The township shakes down and FINES us ALL the same. It's an equal opportunity town, the town government treats us ALL like criminals.

    Should have done your research before moving here. It's not just you.

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    1. No they dont they never enforced the ordnance on Basketball hoops this is all and only about ERUV and they tried bundling it with other violations to make it appear as if its not targeting the newcomers from Lakewood. Lets call a spade a spade.

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  18. This was put into place because a few people complained about the Eruvs and the twp decided that they would enforce all codes. Jackson Twp is notorious for making people jump through hoops. I cannot begin to tell you the nightmare getting a COI was when we sold our house. A friend is opening a business. It has been months sitting on the permits for construction in an existing space. This is a Jackson thing.

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    1. They never enforced all these other codes. this is all about the Eruv.

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    2. When was the last time code enforcement removed a Real Estate sign from the right of way?

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  19. It's amazing how a year ago there were Jackson Strong signs everywhere and not a word about them haveing to move it, yard sale signs are forever dotting lawns across Jackson without a word, blocks had basement all hoops sitting at the curb or even on the streets for years and nothing, and "suddenly" they are being warned to move them? Coincidence????

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