Monday, May 8, 2017

Watch Live: master plan committee meeting 5/8/17

31 comments:

  1. LOOKS LIKE THEVDEVELOPERS VAAD AND OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS HIRED PEOPLE TO COME AND CLAP FOR THE PRO DENSITY AND PRO TRAFFIC COMMITTEE.

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  2. Harold HerskowitzMay 8, 2017 at 8:56 PM

    I couldn't watch most of the meeting, because I just kept screaming into my phone, STOP BUILDING!
    When taxes keep rising, services are being cut, and traffic is beyond insane, you stop building. It's just that simple . Lawsuits? Ok. Let everyone see our big askonim sue our town and take money from the very same people they are supposed to be doing chesed for. We will talk about them every day and list how much of our tax money they are wasting.
    Life is like a bowl of Jelly Beans. They get eaten up , and there are no more and you can sue and scream and threaten and create committees , but the reality is plain as day. The Jelly Beans are gone.
    We need to get the Job Done
    Democrats

    Gruman
    Raitzik

    Republicans who would never dream of continuing this madness,

    Sharaby
    Travis

    It's that simple
    One trip to the voting booth on June 6th and it's all over.
    We must be united towards our goal. Just think about the changes Lakewood has seen since we started the revolt. Now imagine what it will be like if this continues for just one more year. We can't let this happen.
    Let's stop this now!
    No more talk, no politics, action now!

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  3. what went on at the meeting was disgusting. The builders developers investors came with their extended families and tried to present themselves as mainstream Lakewood fighting against the seniors. They strategically sent people up to talk as if they are the frum majority in town. Brian was there to cheer them on they were clapping very loud each time one of their own got up to speak. too bad the video did not show them.

    THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF LAKEWOOD

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  4. Harold HerskowitzMay 8, 2017 at 9:29 PM

    I didnt see an ad asking for women to come speak for more building at the meeting? How much does this job pay? For the better well being of our town? What will happen when one of you goes into labor at home and no ambulance will get to you? Prepared to have a home birth? How about when you can't get your kids to school? Home school? Trip to a market? Gourmet Glatt delivery to the rescue (uch the milk is spoiled again!) Shoes? Zappos. Clothes? Asos,Crewcuts,ladida online. Kids can play on our small patch we call a yard and we can live our life out. Some people call it prison, in Lakewood we call it progress.

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  5. There are many options for those that don't like the growth. Toms River ,Jackson ,Howell etc. Best of both worlds. Big lots ,no traffic and use the schools and stores in Lakewood. There are others who can deal with the growth and we will buy here. There is a choice for everybody. Make believe that Toms River and Jackson are Lakewood with low density zoning.

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    1. I have been living in Lakewood 20 years, you and the developers have no right to impose YOUR choice on the residents of Lakewood.

      The other choices are great for young couples, not good for someone with older children.

      If you live in the other towns, where is your 14 year old son going to daven be in hazmanim?

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  6. FAA getting under the skin of developers this is heating up.

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  7. A groyse yasher koach to FAA for speaking up for the majority of Lakewood. It's too bad that he was much softer than he should've been with those individuals in town looking to make even more money for themselves on the rest of the town's residents account. Unfortunately, committee members like Menashe-the-abolisher Miller are aiding & abetting this unscrupulous behavior. Does Flowing White Milk, LLC ring a bell, Menashe??

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    1. What's the deal with menashe and flowing white milk?

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  8. Harold HerskowitzMay 9, 2017 at 2:08 AM

    The question isn't whether new developments bring in added property taxes, but whether the property taxes it brings in are sufficient to offset the costs of servicing that new development and its residents. In the case of established neighborhoods with single family homes and non rented basements or rented attics, taxes are almost certainly sufficient to cover those costs, in which case residents who do not attend public school are adding surplus to the municipal/regional budget, not subtracting from it.
    But what we have been building is not high density housing that would increase our budget. That would be apartment buildings in which rentals are taxed accordingly. But such housing is not as profitable as building sprawling developments of multi family homes with legal and illegal basement and attic rentals. All of these rentals are adding to our needs for services and are not paying their fair share in taxes. The problem is so prevalent that one of our own committeemen has multiple legal and illegal basement apartment in his own home in plain site and nobody even cares.
    FOR a master plan committee to call these sprawling snakes of multi family houses high density is laughable. High density is situated near public transportation, shopping and recreation. What is being built is urban sprawl at its worst. Everyone needs a car, everyone needs a bus to get to school and there is still no room for kids to play.
    Our governing bodies have been hijacked by a selfish group of people that refuse to see the damage they are doing to people that live in, and care about, Lakewood.
    I understand it is hard to admit that you can no longer continue to do the work you were doing until now. Just like the metal poles in the downtown that are supposed to be used to tie up horses, your services no longer apply. Do any of you cry for the grocery stores that you hurt by bringing in larger groceries? Why should we cry for you? You had a good run. You built in a way that no other town in our country, other than monsey, would allow.
    So lets stop now, take a deep breath, Work on our industrial park, attract businesses that will bring respectable jobs, rezone areas back to single family homes, dedicate ourselves to providing good services to our residents. Fix what we have instead of constantly building new developments. We can increase our tax revenue by fixing blighted areas. Tradesmen that worked for small margins on large developments can work renovating older homes being bought all throughout the area. Every day residents are leaving Lakewood to live in Jackson Toms river and Howell. They are renovating those homes and need plumbers, electricians, and craftsmen.

    The turnout of developers and their supporters was a sign that they fear the party is over. I hate to break it to them. The party was over long ago. They got drunk and have been passed out on the floor. Now it's time to clean up the mess

    Gruman Raitzik
    If you're Democratic or independent

    Sharaby Travis if you are Republican and refuse to vote a VAAD candidate

    We need everyone to vote. Please don't be indifferent. Our lives depend on it now .

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  9. What is the truth about UPS? Is it a total fabrication that they are moving out?

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    1. It is not a fabrication. They were definitely leaning towards moving out, but not because of density, but because of the schools across the street.

      The board member who claimed it was a fabrication lied, for the lack of a better word.

      He also claimed that steps where taken to keep them here. Why would you need to take steps to keep them here if this was a fabrication.

      UPS was planning on leaving. Maybe the public outcry caused the LIC and Township to make accommodations to get them to stay.

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    2. His over 100K salary at LIC is all u need to know not to mention the additional $400 Monthly car allowance.

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    3. Making a $3 milion investment in airport hangers that will take 30 plus years to pay itself off may explain why he can't get a job in the private sector.

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    4. You can thank Steve Langert

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    5. and to add insult to injury Mayor Coles even said it at the township meeting that the airport will bring in ratables.

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  10. Most towns in NJ require a builder to pay for and provide the town with a FISCAL IMPACT STUDY,showing how their project will not impact taxes,services etc. Has any developer ever done that in Lakewood? Every project of size only increases our TAXES. How about Traffic studies? required in most towns. There is no way the builder can spin a yarn on the HUGE impact of traffic and deadly accidents in town. The traffic jams are getting LONGER and impatience,shorter.

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    1. Hogwash. Maybe we should have smaller families because their size impacts our taxes. Not everything is about ratables and money. We have large families and need places to live.

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    2. "Patience" shorter not "impatience"

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    3. anonymous 10:25am, I was going to reply to your comment, but your stupidity speaks for itself.

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  11. Why is THE Leader,Uber boss, SO BLIND, numb, indifferent to the concerns of the Many in Lakewood. Everything is done behind our backs and we end up with the BILL.Does he not see the HATRED from our neighbors which is further fueled by the Total disregard of the Rule of Law

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  12. The truth is our great ratable,the industrial park is being destroyed and becoming a school and residential zone. Homes next to busy warehouses,where the builder gives a few square feet of green space for the kids to breath,but not enough, forcing the kids to play in Fergusens's dangerous storm basin. By the way, the office buildings being done now will add very little to our tax burden due to their lengthy tax abatements. Can't wait to see the many 100's of homes along Airport Rd. and the noisy Parkway with the toxic CO GEN plant next door

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  13. Almost threw up watching this. Absolutely disgusting. Will vote out incumbents on June 6th.
    The seniors should know that the 99% who aren't related to the developers are fully behind them.

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  14. Why didn't Kanarek's puppet show up to any of the meetings he was appointed to the master plan committee.

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  15. Funny how the developers and those pro density, don't live in the dense parts of town. They should move for a week out of their 14th street homes and live near the oak street corridor/oak street schools/Lakewood commons that they like so much. I think then they would have a different view.

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    1. There is always a double standard.

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  16. The double standard is the seniors who live in the r 40 zone but put 10 units per acre to create the highest density in Lakewood. Now they complain about density for our families.

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    1. Harold HerskowitzMay 9, 2017 at 6:06 PM

      They don't have basement and attic apartments..not comparable. They don't pick kids up from school or go to yeshiva. Look at any senior development entrance, even the largest one, you won't see a line waiting to get in or out . They park their cars in garages, not on streets.

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  17. Rarely have I heard someone make a more ridiculous comment than that of FAA that by bringing in more Chasidim it helps the Lakewood traffic problem.

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    1. He was being sarcastic

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    2. You Obviously dont appreciate his humor.

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