Friday, October 14, 2016

Video: Rav Elyashiv ZT''L discussing Halachos of Gittin written in Lakewood

In the video approx 6 years ago, Lakewood dayanim Rav Eliyahu Levin and Rav Yisrael Knopfler pose a question to Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv ztl at his home in Yerushalayim. At that time there was no Bais Din Kavua and the dayanim wanted to start writing Gittin in Lakewood, most gittin were written than in nearby Deal,NJ since its located on the Atlantic ocean. They discuss what is the correct way to write a get in Lakewood since there is more than one body of water and the drinking water comes mostly from wells. Halacha stipulates when A Get is written in a  city it must have a body of water in it, as the text of a Get specifies the city "which is located on the river and situated near wells of water".

Video: Courtesy of First Amendment Activist.

19 comments:

  1. Rav Elyashiv calls Lakewood a Hefkervelt watch the 1:59 mark.

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    1. The Hefkeiros is tenfold now from then.

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    2. no. he says what knofler told him berman did is a hefkerus. he does not say that lakewood is a hefkervelt.

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  2. Lakewod YeshivamanOctober 14, 2016 at 9:12 AM

    I know of this video's existence for a while. To the best of my knowledge it was taken some 5 years ago, not 8. Whilst exactly Rav Elyashiv's intention may be debatable, one thing is certain, He certainly had no knowledge of any קביעות how to write גיטין in Lakewood prior to this meeting. This flies in the face of those who attacked Rav Knoffler for having supposedly argued with a קביעות already made by Rav Elyashiv. This video actually goes along way to exonerate him from all the mud slinging by the establishment עמי הארץ who did all they could to discredit RK in any way possible, even accusing him of having the audacity to challenge Rav Elyashiv's prior קביעות.
    I don't understand why this video was not made public 3 years ago, but I guess better late than never!

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  3. Gittin in Lakewood? Who ever heard of such a thing? Very sad

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  4. What about the gittin that were written previously in Lakewood?

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    1. First Ammendment Activist in his title claim Rav Elyashev passeled them. Absolutely false!

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  5. It's for sure a forgery. Mendy Senderovitz from Milwaukee claimed 15 years ago Rav Elyashev told him exactly how to write Gittin in Lakewood. This video, if true, would disprove that totally. Therefore, it's not possible to be true.

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    1. how could a clear video be a "forgery"?

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  6. Why, because "Mendy Senderovitz" from Milwaukee can't possibly be lying?

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  7. Listening to the vdeo, the guy who is lying, was lying to Reb Eliyashev, & you could see who it is.
    If he had told Reb Elyashuv the truth that R" Senderovits had already been koveiah the ksivas shem. R'Elyashuv, would never have continued the conversation. Like he said in the beginning, the Rabonim in the America must decide.
    TRabbi Berman's Beis Din has been going for years, & to say there is no Beis Din is a lie, & to pasel gittin that beis din made, is oiver al cheirem Drabeinu Tam & Rabeinu Moshe Talmido.
    This video is bizayon Talmid Chochom , showing how anyone could put on a frock & dray a kop gedolei Yisroel loi eleynu.
    The Kol Koreh was correct, only a slight problem, it gave someone who put on a frock, more legitimacy than he deserves.
    Please someone give him a job, he has BLAH"R a large family & is in great need of parnoso.

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    1. Bemichilas kvodcha, Rav Eliyohu Levin was sitting there too he knows lakewood botei din better than anyone.

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    2. He didnt say Rabonim. He said the Bais Din. A Bais Din is not a yochid from Milwaukee or anywhere else. A Bais Din us an accepted Bais Din by the towns people. Only that can he a kovea.

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    3. Who exactly is Senderowitz to be kove'a? As Rav Elyashiv says clearly "Gedoilei Amerika" need to be kove'a together with a Bais Din. This is exactly what happened afterwards. Then all you bored souls decided it was an insult to Lakewood that they had been made to look like the עמי הארץ they are, writing Gitten like schoolboys, so you put together a Kol Koreh against one of the biggest Talmidei Chachamim in town. 6 years down the line, the one who the Kol Koreh was written against is laughing at all the losers who signed it (those who didn't run to ask him mechila and retract as soon as they realized how they had been duped by guys like you). GET A LIFE!

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  8. And one of the main people behind the Kol Koreh is no longer involved in gittin due to rinunim about his moral failings. It's well known that the Kol Koreh was a hit job by some thugs trying to maintain a monopoly on power.

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  9. Rabbi Knopfler single handidly knocked out Rabbi Gavriel Finkels Bais Din Vaad Hadayonim he is the only Bais Din in Lakewood who is not afraid of the Establishment

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  10. http://bshch.blogspot.com/2016/10/blog-post_3194.html

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  11. http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2016/10/lakewood.html

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  12. The Establishment is Gone there is nothing left to it

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