Monday, October 10, 2016

No room in shul, no seats for children

With all the talk about slowing growth and building, one area that needs more building is shuls. Over the Yomim Noraim shuls in various Lakewood developments were filled to capacity many did not have seating for children in some cases age limits were set. As the families grow shuls have to expand to accommodate the natural growth of their members. With all the talk about density, we must not let it get to a point that we oppose shuls, schools and much needed facilities for the community.

12 comments:

  1. Why do you think there is not enough room in shuls and schools??

    Because Lakewood allowed residential growth without the proper infrastructure!!!

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  2. From the depths of my heart I wish all those that were part of this terrible avlah and chillul hashem a gut gebentched yur. I ask that hashem be moichel me as I am moichel them. At the same time everything must be done to stop this avlah from continuing

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  3. Sorry, but I find it very difficult to be moichel the kovod fressers ho stopped the Kelm woods shul from building. The lies, mud slinging and bashmutzing of 2 innocent brothers who bend over backwards to help people no matter whether they are mispallelim in their shul or not. The underhand tactics are unforgivable. גמר חתימה טובה to all.

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  4. The only shul that attempted to expand was WestGate's shul by Rav Helberg.
    Even after a din-Torah that allowed to expand the shul, the Airev-Rav made its appearance via the Mikva, etc and made a chilul hashem that no person can be moichel.

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  5. I don't consider myself such a tzadik. I like to think that I can even be moichel this. Hopefully hashem will reciprocate to me. Again in no way am I justifying the terrible avlah, and assertain that everything that can be done to stop the avlah should continue to be done even and especially during, yes, even neilah.

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  6. There is no excuse to build ANYTHING, including a shul, if it negatively affects others.

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  7. It's ironic how the very same place screaming about safety and traffic have now brought it to Westgate through a seat on the bus consortium. Hundreds of children crowded dangerously at street corners waiting for the bus, Traffic all over hillside Blvd in the morning rush. Yet they were soo worried about traffic.

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  8. To 12:54. move to Jackson or Howell please.
    There is no such thing as any frumme insitutuion that will not have some negative affect on immediate neighbors. But as frum people we understand that it is necessary to have a shul within walking distance of our homes. Of course neighbors should be taken into consideration and all possible remedies to ease the situation should be implemented.
    Are you telling me the shul where you daven affects nobody negatively? I guess you have a shul to daven in, so everyone else can just drop dead.
    Anyone who knows anything about what went on, knows how far out on a limb Kelmwood went to satisfy the neighbors. If there are any neighbors that claim they were not clued in, they have only those who presented themselves as spokesmen for the tzibbur to blame.
    What is ironic is that is those same people who presented themself as the tzibburs spokesemen are now claiming that not everyone knew.
    Shame on you, shame on your wives who stood up against a shul, and shame on the so called "Rabbonim" who justify this behavior.

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  9. New Minhag in WG The gabbai dosnt announce Kinder arois by Yizkor.. there are no kids in shul

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    1. LOTS OF LEBEDIGE YESOMIM

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    2. The rovs aidem made a Bris erev Yom Kippur and you seriously couldn't move in the shul

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    3. The mafia does not want to let any brisim in shul either. but they will now smile and greet everyone in the streets.

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