Wednesday, September 7, 2016

Tonight: Tackling the drug issue

Who is pushing it in Lakewood? we have to go after the pushers.

33 comments:

  1. The OCP office told me they can't deal with the small oushers. I should deal with LPD. Waisting my time with lpd.

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  2. Very surprised at the Voice of Lakewood for the article. Yes the issue is important but does it belong in a family magazine that is read by many children. Do we have to expose 11, 12 year olds to this? They could have put in only an ad.

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    1. Yes. It is extremely important specifically for 11,12 year olds to realize that just because someone is wearing a yarlemulka doesn't mean they aren't pushing drugs. So stay away from them!!! Don't let these pushers take advantage of a child's naiveté

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    2. Are you out of your mind? no pusher is approaching the average 11 12 year old in Lakewood. Our kids do not have to be exposed
      to this.

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    3. Yes. The ages of 11 and 12 are precisely when children should begin receiving a proper education about the risks of drug and alcohol use.

      They should be discussing why adolescents turn to drugs in the first place. Would be surprised if that happens...

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    4. I agree with anonymous, no reason to expose children to this. What works best is for kids to feel it's out of the realm of normalcy, once they are exposed, it makes the idea less foreign to them.

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    5. Research in this area begs to differ. Your approach is precisely what's wrong with parental attitudes in frum communities.

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    6. Think very very carefully about the benefits and possibly negative effects of 11 year olds being aware of the fact that drugs are a dangerous disease that can kill.

      What's the problem with them knowing about it.

      Much safer for kids to be aware in advance. Just in case they ever get CV exposed to a scenario...

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    7. plush, the modern community who are so open have a drug problem. teens doing drugs are well aware of the consequences they take the gamble. We can not remove that stigma. Anyone doing drugs is a big average and a no no. No excuses or blaming the system. What we need is to help them understand they can end up in a coffin.

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  3. all these "experts" needs jobs. (Follow the money...)
    What they are doing is making an "uproar" so they can save us all from this mageifa that many of you didnt know you were suffering from.
    And now the kids who never knew how much they need to be saved, nor from what, will try to figure out what all the excitement is all about.
    Then when they do figure it out.... the experts will have more client$.

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    1. oi ess iz gut!!!!

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    2. I have been saying this for a long time. The economy is struggling. The areas that are thriving are healthcare and therapy 9which is partially why health insurance has gone through the roof).

      They are constantly finding new issues to diagnose people with.

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  4. Berel. your the only 11 year old that has drug dealers approaching them.

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  5. Ask any taxi driver this town, they will tell you that the drug and prostitution trade flourishes out of a bar at the edge of the downtown area next door to a school, the dark streets beyond it to the east along route 88 and highpoint area.

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    1. If you think it's only from the non-jews you are tragically mistaken. Some of the biggest pushers in town are from our community.

      Recently I was with a friend who was trying to get ahold of a fix. He was calling "frum" chevra. Very sad and tragic.

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    2. Sadly one need not go to far. These places arent the pushers. The pushers and prostitutes are not yidden they are not looking for us we are looking for them we must change

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  6. I’m being responded to so vitrioliclly that I’m wondering did I hit a raw nerve?

    What else is the reason that those who want children so sheltered can’t talk intelligently and with decency?

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    1. Because an intelligent person should know that all Lakewood boys and girls in elementary or early high school are not approached by drug pushers and there is no reason for them to read about it in a family magazine.

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    2. If they don't put in an article, how will people wake up and realize drugs can hit any family no matter how frum/yeshivish/chassidish/chashuv the family is?? A girl overdosed THIS WEEK, daughter of a Chashuve family.

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    3. They can send a mailing so parents can screen it. Children read the voice of Lakewood. The girls who overdosed was in her 20's living in Israel. She wasnt taking drugs since age 11

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    4. She was from monsey a rebbish einikel from a chasidish home she went more modern in the last years and got involved with drugs. She was in Maimonides hospital after poisoning from drugs and she was nifteres R'L.

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    5. LOL. I can't laugh more at the idea of "sending a mailing". What do 90% of people do with mail from organizations (unless it's a reciept)?

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    6. Laugh all you want, Its sad when The Lakewood voice has to be censored and kids should not read what it says in it.

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  7. All of you that sadly R"L have a drug problems in the house try and not make it as if every 11 year old is getting drugs! and its in "every choshever persons house".
    Its so sad to see that when people suffer they try to make themselves into the norm. As if it will help them if "everyone" has this problem. This way no one will look down at them and judge them. After all "its everywhere!!"
    Tzaras Rabim Chatzi Nechama?

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    1. To help addicts, you need money.

      To raise money you need people to know about the issue.

      To get people to know about the issue you need events.


      My personal opinion is that this event is to raise awareness to the issue so that the community will realize that it's not such an isolated issue and we all know people who have the issue, whether they tells us about it or not. After enough people realize how big the issue is, the money will start to flow to the organizations that are there to help these addicts get the proper rehab they need. $6k a month is an enormous sum. Especially if you are trying to help 100 addicts.

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  8. I am no mumcha but from the few cases I know personally it seems to be a symptom of an underlying issue. Cutting distribution I dont think will help much they will just get it from somewhere else. Obviously you want the drugs to be as difficult as possible to get however I think it is more of a siman then a siba.

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  9. I think The Voice dropped the ball on this one. They should not have put in this advertisement. I personally know many people who were very upset about it.

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    1. No one forced you to read the voice. The voice is guided by a rabbinical board however they should have stated that the content published is with the guidance of rabbonim.

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  10. Now what?? Nesivos can start shnorring more money$$$$$$$$

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  11. Everybody in the know knows there is a drug issue this is not an issue that is getting hidden under the rug like child molestation.
    There is no reason to publicize this in a family freindly magazine
    I personally deal with kids at risk and have dealt with sending them to rehab etc..
    What is needed is not a public infomercial but an organization just like chai lifeline , bikur cholem etc to deal with kids that are on drugs
    This organization will be multi faceted 1) it would give a helping hand to the parents 2) it would help the pepole who have a problem with drugs get the right help - which rehab is best for them - do they need to go to a detox program or rehab - do they need to go to a frum rehab program or a non Jewish program - fundraise money to pay for rehab when insurance won't pay which can cost 4K - 5k a month
    There are individual pepole that do this like Ezzy Finkel and other but this is a huge problem and these individuals don't have the time , money or resources to get every kid the right help
    If this problem is as big as they say 70 neshomos in just a year and probably even more we as a community must support opening such an organization
    In closing the focus of most of these speeches were why do kids take to drugs etc.. There are plenty of pepole that are dealing with kids at risk ... We need to deal with the problem of drugs once it happens that's what we are missing

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    1. None of your solutions have any real preventive measures.

      One of the first steps is educating children about the dangers of drugs and drug pushers before they are approached.

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    2. Yeah that makes a lot of sense. 90% of kids grow up just fine. No interest in drugs. So we need "education" like they have in the public schools "say no to drugs"?! The ones who have issues with drugs have other issues too…

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  12. It really does not speak well of you when you can only express yourself with sarcasm and anger. If you express yourself this way in front of your children it will have a lot more of an adverse affect on your children than the article under discussion.

    Having children aware to stay away from potential drug pushers isn't different from telling them not to take rides from strangers.

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