Sunday, September 25, 2016

How did you say (or ask for) Selichos?

I went to shul heard a fiery speech from the Rav, the chazzan began the traditional kadish to the tune of yomim noraim, fathers with sleepy eyed children, old and young were in the audience all asking for forgiveness as we get ready for the Yom Hadin. When it was over we went home. There were no photographers, no guitars, no organ, no cello, no musical instruments, no dancing, no entertainment, no carlebach nusach no kumzitz. It was a simple selichos recital seen in many shuls across the world the way it was done last year, and the year before, with the authentic nusach. But you wont see a video of it on the websites because its just perhaps too old fashioned or not newsworthy. Not here to take away or make light of what others do but we have become a man bites dog society.
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18 comments:

  1. I think that many people don't feel a "connection", they don't feel that their neshama is alive and daven by rote. So we see people go to Carlebach style davening to externally get some feeling in their spirit.

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    You are so right

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  3. I have never gone to a party slichos (yet), but watch it every year. When you see people singing hashivainu H" ailecha for 20 minutes with every fiber of their mind and body and then you think, hey what was I thinking for those thirty seconds when my rav said it out loud after which I repeated it. who it's missing the boat??

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    1. I agree. The people with the guitars have more bren and yidishkeit than the typical shul/sheel or shteeble.

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    2. are you serious? Some young shnook with a guitar has more bren than an alteh yid, than a holocaust survivor or a rosh yeshiva or any frum person who davens in shul? etc.. gimme a break

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    3. Yes the people with the guitars have more bren when they play the guitars than the typical shul people without the guitars who try to have a bren even when there is no guitar.

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  4. Its a new phenomenon and thats why its newsworthy give it a few years and it will be old news.

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  5. Where is the earliest selichos at night in Lakewood?

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  6. Where is the earliest selichos at night in Lakewood?

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    1. Stolin on E 7th and Cornelius Maariv 9:45 Selichos 10:00 pm

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    2. HV , can you post slichos times for Lakewood please

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    3. Stolin is in Lakewood. on East 7th

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    4. As per the gedolei haposkim, selichos may not be said before chatzos. Rather miss selichos than say it then. Rav elyashiv, amongst others, was extremely strict about this

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  7. The People with The Guitars have more Bren on the outside for the 20 minutes they are singing Hashiveinu after that it is Straight to the sports bars and other Gimmicks to keep them on an Artificial superficial High. those who say slichos with a seriousness it lasts them for the entire Elul and beyond

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  8. Although there is no question that Selichos should be said without the gimmicks there are people who wouldn't show up without them. Therefore I don't want think it is correct to knock it.

    As we asked Hashem on Motzey Shabbos "P"ney el H'Taloas V'al Lchatoas"(roughly:See our nisynos and pain not our averos)

    That same attitude should be used toowards the guitar selichos crowd.

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  9. BML, Rav Yisroel Goldblatts yeshiva located at 613 Madison Ave. has 3 minyanim for Slichos daily
    7:55 AM before shachris,
    10:30 PM
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    12:50 AM

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  10. I thought selichos is a solemn event not entertainment.

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  11. Selichos is a solemn event however we live in a generation where some people need this type of entertainment however it should not be publicized or promoted on the internet or newspapers for everyone to see otherwise it will become the norm for the next generation for everyone

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