Wednesday, July 20, 2016

Over 30 minutes for an errand

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Traffic in Lakewood is insane its impossible and there is no end in sight. A simple errand that should have taken me 5-10 minutes took 35 minutes instead. Getting out of  Lakewood is almost half the time it takes to get to Brooklyn. Just to get across town takes 45 minutes end to end with no bypass roads. What is being done about it besides speeches and empty promises from our elected officials? Township blames the county and county officials blame who knows who. Yesterday Cedarbridge Avenue, from rt 88 was backed up all the way to Clover and the geniuses want to divert even more traffic there.  

31 comments:

  1. very simple solution, just move out of lakewood, contrary to poular belief there are many normal frum communities outside of lakewood nj!!!

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  2. Everybody knows that the morning and Bain hasedirim when everybody is going to Yeshiva and babysitters ,the traffic is terrible. Drive at 11 30 am most days and you can breeze along on 5 minutes. We have rush hour traffic during certain times and you have to,live with that as long as BMG is in town.

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    1. Ok but we dont have to make it worse

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  3. Do like I do, I use an ebike .(I'm not from Lakewood though).

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  4. Tragically, things are slated to get MUCH worse. There are massive developments already approved that are going up on Prospect Street, Cross Street, East County Line Road and Rt. 88 among others. Traffic will get much much worse.
    We residents of Lakewood must stand up and become more active. For example, next Tuesday July 25 the Zoning Board will decide on a plan to build a 6 story residential apartment building...yes 6 stories with hundreds of tenants at the corner of County Line and Squankam. There should be hundreds showing up to the meeting to ensure that the desire of the few, doesn't ruin the quality of life of thousands.
    IF WE DON'T START DRIVING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS CRAZY, AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WE WILL NOT SUCCEED. IT IS NOT ENOUGH JUST TO WRITE INTO HEFKERVELT. WE MUST PETITION MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD, ATTEND MEETINGS AND CONSTANTLY MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD.
    We must read the "Smart Growth" plan and realize what a farce it is. How it has just contributed to even more congestion.
    Lakewood, it is time to take our town back!!

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    1. You sound frustrated. Good luck...

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  5. You are so so right. I don't understand how our "elected officials" and I will planning board approves every single day a new development building dozens of new houses on to already congested roads.

    I don't understand how builders are approved to get whatever they want! Who are they connected with and how do they get connected? What is it that you have to jump through hoops to get your porch extension approved when there are builders that a building on every little corner and every little Piece of land that's already over congested! When will this madness end?
    Time to elect streight politicians!!!

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  6. Move to Jackson where you are unwanted because they're afraid that we will do exactly this to them! Stuff their roads and build without any achrayus!

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  7. To anonymous who said that the traffic is only at rush hour and you breeze through at other times of the day. i dont know what town you are living in. It is rare that I ever breeze through Rt. 9 South, no matter what time of the day it is. County Line is very congested for large parts of the day, not only during rush hour. Maybe you live in Lakewood Colorado.

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  8. Cedarbridge was backed up at 3 PM!

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  9. a very simple solution would be for a ban during daytime hours, on vehicle with plates beginning with an odd/even letter depending on the day of the week. for example a,c,e,g etc on sun,tue,thrus, and b,d,f,h on mon,wed,fri for week 1 of the month, and reverse it week 2, and so on.

    bans work for everything else, why shouldn't it work for traffic too?

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  10. Harold herskowitzJuly 20, 2016 at 11:36 AM

    This town was planned by a group of self serving Realtors and property owners. They were helped by Menashe Miller, which made him quite wealthy,and Meir Lichtenstein whose business has boomed along with the irresponsible building.
    One look at the planning board agenda from last night (thank you HV for posting it) and you can see the root of the problem. Everything on the agenda was either a subdivision or the building of a tax free organization on a property that previously paid taxes. On a street that used to have 40 single family homes, there can be 80 duplexes. Where once there were 50 to 60 cars there can easily be 200 or more. A lot that had one family needing services, now has 6.This is not how a town should be planned.
    Density is not a bad thing in the right place and the right time. Dense housing that evolves out of a city center with a vibrant downtown can be a wonderful thing. But placing small pockets of density with haphazard strip malls around a lack of sufficient roads is a recipe for disaster. I started warning everyone about this ten years ago,and now it is our reality. The downtown concept is over. The downtown is dead and gone and nothing can save it now. I feel bad for the businesses that own their stores(me included) and invested their heart and soul into making Lakewood a pleasurable place to live, only to be spit on by people that have ulterior motives and smile for the cameras as if they really care. The only way to change things for the better is to ask Menashe and Meir to resign. But we all know that is like asking a high paid CEO to quit his job for the good of investors. They will need to be forced out or like so many comments said, we will need to give up and move.

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    1. why is it okay to mention meir and menashe's names on this site but not "he who must not be named" - the real single cause of all our problems? but the "high paid CEO" reference can only apply to him.

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    2. Harold herskowitzJuly 20, 2016 at 9:33 PM

      I was actually not referring to "him". It was simply a parable. But now that you mention it, yes he is part of the problem. The yeshiva is the driving force behind all that made Lakewood grow. It has created businesses and growth along with the Harbotzos Torah throughout the years. The Yeshiva could do all that and at the same time not allow what has happened to change the spirit and livability of Lakewood. The Yeshiva deserved Cedarbridge as a way to grow bigger without Inconveniencing people outside the community. Instead many hangers on worked to profit for themselves under the banner of Torah. If anyone tried to stop any of those trying to "help" the Yeshiva, or even questioned them, they were quickly called horrible names. Those that seek to profit for themselves under the guise of leshaim shomayim are protected by their friends in high places. And these people hurt you. They hurt me. And they wont stop because we are all too scared of what they will say if we open our mouths.
      So let's all enjoy the pig races before Rosh Hashana and drink some beer.

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  11. At least the oilam should use their time constructively and listen to a shiur or shmooz.

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  12. All new building permits must be rejected until the problem is solved. Included in this moratorium should be not just homes, but schools as well. Not only permits for new structures, but also for expanding existing homes must be rejected.
    Result would initially be am upsurge in pricing. This would encourage many to look elsewhere. (NYC, Jersey City, Detroit, etc.)

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    1. jersey city? lol. how about compton or camden? Or Baghdad?

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  13. According to Herschel, all the problems are because downtown isn't working out.
    Makes sense, no?
    Signed,
    ANONYMOUS

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    1. and the solution is to build a skyscraper downtown.

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    2. Harold herskowitzJuly 20, 2016 at 9:51 PM

      First of all I never said that the demise of the downtown is the only problem we face, and yes I plan on building a high rise there where my store will no longer be.
      Second of all. Please find me any growing town or small city that is growing and has an old downtown that did not take advantage of it. All other towns in and out of NJ that have success in their growth came from a vibrant downtown center. You want to make fun of a fact? Go right ahead. But don't complain when your car gets sideswiped on the nartow lanes because new lanes were added to accommodate housing and strip malls where they don't belong.

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    3. I agree with you on most things, but the downtown in Lakewood is completely irrelevant. I know that is tough to take as an investor there but it is the facts.

      You cite other town that depend on the downtown for growth,if you haven't noticed, Lakewood has no issues with growth.

      The bigger issues are the traffic, the lack of parks./ open spaces, and disproportionately small amount of land being set aside for commercial use, which is going to cause long term shortfalls in tax revenue.

      When you go through some of the ghettos in this country, you wonder what they were thinking when they built all the rowhouses there.

      they did it, because at one point in History, Trenton, Camden, Philly were hot places to live and booming towns, then with the over deevelopment (along with other factors), they became unlivable and people moved to the suburbs.

      The same will happen to Lakewood. any young couple who buys here is making a huge mistake. You can move to Jackson, get a nice house and property, and not have to have a tenant living in your basement.

      That has happened in Monsey, it will happen here. the percentage of people that actually need to be near Yeshiva is dwindling every year.

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  14. There is enough room to make County line road and route 88 2 lanes in each direction there is also enough room to turn kennedy blvd into a 4 lane road with a turning lane from the gsp in brick through Lakewood until laurelwood ave there is also room to build vine street feom route 88 to toms river as a parlel to route 9

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    1. Vine Street is extremely back up as it is,and will get much worse once the developments are built, Throwing more traffic on it is not a solution.

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  15. Normal sounds like he really nailed the issue... I know him - he's a great guy!

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  16. Anonymous 141 PM. I agree there is enough room to make all those streets two lanes in each direction. So lets have a moratorium on all building and all new approvals until those improvements are done. NO BUILDING UNTIL THERE IS ACTUALLY INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT!

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    1. Now that you have a house we can make a moratorium. Right on.

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  17. Moratorium is a fancy word. Does anybody know what it means?

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    1. a temporary prohibition of an activity

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  18. The “Smart Growth Plan” is a farce. Anybody who does any research into the concept of "Smart Growth” will see that smart growth means taking what would otherwise be a suburban sprawl (houses on large lots over a large area) and take the SAME amount of housing units and condense them into a smaller area while leaving the rest of the otherwise undeveloped land open for parks recreation etc etc etc.. The “Point" of smart growth conserve land, conserve resources (less roads etc necessary), give people the ability to live in a vibrant downtown style community (yes HH) while at the same time giving them all the open area they would otherwise have available for their use. The MOST important part of any Smart Growth Plan is to plan for and fund the necessary improvement (parking, road widening etc..) in the densely populated area to support the density……So what’s smart about Lakewood’s “Smart Growth Plan”???...
    When the Smart Growth Plan was up for a vote, I know someone who lived in a neighborhood that was affected. He did his research, realized the affect the plan would have, and tried getting some support from his neighborhood. He could not get ONE of his neighbors to come to the meetings with him. NOT ONE!!!
    Nothing in Lakewood is going to change because nobody cares to get involved and fight proactively. Everybody finally "Gets It" two years after the fact and “Traffic is so bad..oy vey what are we going to do…Time to take back the town??” Good morning…your too late…

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  19. Harold HerskowitzJuly 21, 2016 at 4:53 PM


    Well said. Like I said ten years ago at the original Smart Growth meeting, The first rule of Smart Growth is to make sure that the foundation you are building upon is sound and secure. All areas of blight or ill developed land in your town needs to be repaired first. After the initial Smart Growth meeting the town went on a building spree without any idea about the ramifications. Many of us notice the traffic, but do you know how much higher our taxes will need to be? The effect this growth is having on children and out ability to educate and raise them responsibly? It didnt have to be this way.

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  20. Taxes in other nj towns are also very high. Even in Liberty My and Fallsburg the taxes are high. High taxes are a problem everywhere except NYC that has huge office buildings that pay the taxes

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