Tuesday, July 5, 2016

More options ease late appointments

New Belz Mikva
Compared to the past few years the late night mikva appointments have improved somewhat. The opening of New Hampshire location has eased the burden on other locations helping people get earlier appointments as opposed to first getting one after 1 am. Last week the new Belz community in Lakewood inaugurated a new mikva Tahara that will service that toms River area. Its is obviously under its own independent leadership and minhagim. There is a push to have some Friday night mikvaos open during the week in the late summer months. The mikva is controlled by a few yechidim and for years it was difficult for others to open and operate during the week. However as the needs of the town keep on growing and  more communities settle in, others are stepping up making sure no one has to wait 4 hours for an appointment.

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  1. In Westgate you can pay to have the ability and reserve your appointment 3 days in advance. but only members of the westgate shul are offered it.

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    1. that is so untrue, stop spewing your nonsense

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    2. Stop spewing your spins. Ask residents of westgate who dont daven in Rposhitz if they were ever offered this perk?The answer is NO. When people complained to Rabbi Zimbal about the late appointments he suggested that they pay membership and receive the perk to reserve 3 days in advance. Ladies who donated to the yearly mikva auction were not notified of this perk even though their yearly donations added up to the membership threshold. The mikva perk is offered and used by many members of the ropshitz mob. The Rabbonim of the mikva had no idea of this offer and were shocked when they were told about it. Yet nothing was done. Its faster to go to the New Hampshire location from westgate and back than it is to wait to get an appointment if your not from those who have the perk.

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    3. There are people who bought houses in west gate and were required to pay $500 to the Mikveh, and NEVER EVEN KNEW ABOUT THE MIKVEH PERK till hefkervelt brought it up! Thank you hefkervelt for exposing the disgusting clandestine activities of the Westgate Maffia!

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  2. What kind of town do we live in when a mitzva d'oiraisuh is hijacked by a few yechidim. How am I supposed to function the next day, when my wife first gets an appt after 1:00am and I get up for a chavrusa and a shiur at 4:30am? There's absolutely no reason why every mikva is not open the whole summer.

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  3. Interesting!
    when they took my $1200 they didn't mention that Helberg mispallelim will be second class citizens when making appointments.

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    1. So where are the rabbonim (and the janitor - והמבין יבין!) when it comes to these issues?

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  4. some still prefer 1:00 AM appointments at Mandel's private exclusive night club, rather than lowering themselves to go to a publicly owned and operated facility.

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  5. Moichel toivos! I'd rather not be affiliated with the Maffia and not have any men privy to my wife's personal calendar

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  6. How unfortunate that all the true issues of this town have to always be expressed in such a forum. Since we are truly lacking in leadership this is why all issues such as the above aren't dealt with responsibly. What a real busha, that its come to have to express these issues in public

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    1. Demand a vote for the roshei hakehilla in westgate. Nobody gets voted in forever, they should stand for re-election and be forced to prove what benefit the kehilla has for from their existence.
      If you paid for the mikva, demand a right to exercise control.

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    2. The biggest busha is that these issues exist to start with! Is this "Lakewood ihr haTorah" or "FAKE-wood ihr haMaffia"?????

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  7. Maybe the voice will make this issue their cover article feature- and we will be left where we started from except that they will claim that they "tackled" the issue

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    1. Homes are now affordable to all the voice tackled the issue it's all taken care of.

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  8. There should be a special system set up for newlyweds no reason they have to wait up to 3-4 hours.

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    1. Some young couples go to deal or Manalapan it's much faster

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    2. Why are newlyweds better than longer married couples?

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  9. can someone pls explain which mandel is associated with westgate mikvah and what he does and why hes involved and if its public etc

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  10. As a new westgate resident i find it appalling that others have it all taken care of for themselves and we the simpletons struggle even for the basics.
    Is it fair?
    Is it fair that newcomers get very late appointments to the mikvah while others have first crack at earlier appointments?
    Is it fair?
    Is it fair that my husband has to walk outside the development to daven because there is no room for him and my sons while others who dont live in westgate have seats for themselves and their children in the westgate shul!!!!
    Life is not fair, but this is not Yashrus.

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    1. maybe you should have done more research before moving in somewhere. How could move to a new neighborhood before first checking if you would have a shul to daven in?

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    2. We were told you get seats when you pay membership. How fooled we were. A gabbing said eventually a seat may open but with the membership my husband will get an Aliya. For now he walks to Lutz shul and they are expanding to make room for more!

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  11. You're 100% correct! If so many ppl are complaining about lack of place to daven, why doesn't someone go to rabbi Zimbal and beg him to let the new shul be built?

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    1. Rabbi Zimball said many times he wants the shul but he has no control over the mobsters who hired him. As one of the big boys on the westgate mafia, an executive director in his shvers school said about the Rav "hes hired just like our janitor".

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  12. Whoever this rabbi mandel is, it seems like he wields a lot of power in west gate. Maybe someone should appeal to him to help alleviate these issues. If he's in charge of the Mikveh, he must be very well connected.

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  13. Even more sad is the Prospect park Rav who fought against a shul because of its close proximity to the mikva yet why the silence on what actually goes on with the mikva? does he get the perk? does it bother him that people get home at 1:30 am.

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    1. Yes he does get the perk. Put in his phone number 3 days in advance for a reservation and you will see for yourself.

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  14. How selfish and inconsiderate, as long as "our" wives get early mikva appointments as long as "our" husbands and children have seats in shul everyone else can go to hell.

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  15. There is no concern for the safety of pedestrians and motorists either. At night it is very dark along Hillside between Kelmwoods and Kingsfield where the mikva is. There are no street lamps there at all. cars cant see pedestrians crossing and walking and motorists cant see the curb in the road. Residents have been complaining to the township for years and nothing was done whenever the issue is brought up it is stonewalled and meet a brick wall. Perhaps the connected askanim westgate mayor and mikva management want to keep it dark for tznius reasons? we dont know but its very suspicious and obviously someone is stopping the township from putting in lighting.

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  16. Maybe it's because SOMEONE doesn't want people to see them going into the Mikveh after hours?!

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  17. A township official responded to the request to add street lights "there have not been any fatalities there yet". So basically until got forbid there is a fatality we dont have to do anything.

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  18. Do residents in Prospect park also get early appointments in Westgate mikva because of their Ravs connections?

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  19. call the Rabbonim in charge and tell them this practice MUST STOP NOW! Where else do people have a privelage in a communal mikva? Its not mentchlich or yashrusdik to have a system where people use a public mikva as their private entity. Call Rabbi Forcheimer Rabbi Katz Rabbi Finkel and tell them to stop these perks going on at the wetgate mikva.

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    1. Call Rabbi Zimbal and Rabbi Hisiger too.

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  20. Call them all and see how many times each Rav changes his psak! Don't forget to ask for each psak in writing so you can compare afterwards!

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    1. yes indeed! call them all!
      say tefillas haderech and get ready for the run around.

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  21. Who controls the mikvaos in town? How does this go on were ladies get home at 2 in the morning.

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  22. Rabbi Zimbel tells people to get membership so they can get the early perk.

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  23. Is this perk available to all of Lakewood or only Westgate residents.

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  24. What a chutzpah! I never heard of such a thing where connected people get preferences at the mikva. show Rabbonim in Lakewood allow this is beyond me. This practice should be stopped a fair system should be implemenred.

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  25. Welcome to Westgate!! Time for everyone to wake up and smell the coffee!

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