Thursday, July 7, 2016

Lakewood Planing board denies change of use for a yeshiva to open

Last week a yeshiva operating in a residential area was shut down by Lakewood township. The township manager said he shut down the yeshiva after he was contacted by the APP about neighbors complaints regarding the property. Yeshiva Meor hatorah came to the planing board asking for change of use, the board voted 4-3 to deny the request, a report in the APP said  "Board members John Franklin, David Hibberson, Justin Flancbaum and Eugene Cautillo voted with the majority, while Israel Grunberger, Yechiel Herzl and Louie Follman voted in the minority. Michael Neiman, the board’s chairman, abstained." Audio starts at 1:05.

28 comments:

  1. So it takes the APP to get things done in town?

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  2. The NEIGHBORS are complaining about an illegal use. How can a board member approve the application? can someon please explain? I know it is a yeshiva but still

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  3. This guy gets up and asks the board to punish the yeshiva for an illegal use, the same guy sits on the masterplan committee and askanim fun unzereh are buddy buddy with him. FEH!

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  4. Time to reach out to Agudah about what is going on in Lakewood township stopping shuls and yeshivas from functioning.

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  5. If it would be elsewhere we scream golus but when unzereh fight shuls and yeshivos its in the spirit of safety and quality of life. Why do we elect frum politicians if these are the results. The boards are only helping a few developers and builders anyone else must fend for themselves.

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  6. Why did Neiman abstain???

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  7. I personally have no interest in having a high school in my backyard. There are many places in lakewood that are better suited for schools (Cross Str ect) then in a random house on a residential block

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  8. Please. If you make a chillul Hashem and antagonize your neighbors by creating an eyesore out of a nice neighborhood ,why should you get an approval.

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  9. The yeshiva was willing to work with the neighbors, Its not a permanent home they are there temporary. 3 members voted for approval 1 yarmulka wearing one voted against the other abstained which was of no help.
    Lo Zu Haderech.

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  10. מהרסייך ומחריבייך ממך יצאו
    This is nothing new its unfortunate how we see this נבואה play itself out again and again. First Rabbonim and roshei mosdos publicly went to fight against a much needed shul in westgate with no busha at all. What was done in Westgate is now continuing in other parts of Lakewood. Frum members openly opposing yeshivos schools and shuls. We are our own worst enemies.

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    1. Sorry but Mord. weiss, Y. Epstein Y. Hess, C. M. mandel, Greenspan, Rav Hisiger, westgate mayor and others have more daas torah and yichus in their controlling an entire kehila. Who are you to question them and blame all on westgate.

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    2. Yichus is like a bunch of zeros - there has to be something before the zeros for it to be counted!

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    3. If these people are called Daas torah and Rabbonim were in serious bad shape.

      Since when do control freaks assume the title of Rabbonim.

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  11. yeshiva wanted a temporary exemption while they build a school building at another location which they purchased. this is for a short (up to two years) temporary use approval at a rented location, while they get their business in order. all this along with fixing up all the objection (trailers, garbage, pool, gate etc. AND sufficient parking) to the current state of the property.

    this was not for a school to be formally established on that property. btw a school is permitted in that zone.

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  12. Same as Hillary ClintonIt all comes down to who you have on your team. If your well liked have money and well connected with the right people it works in your favor if not they will trash you.

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  13. Why did they have to make the place look like a zoo before they went for approval ? If they would have gone for approval like a mensch without doing everything illegal first,they would have been approved.

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  14. This should have been done before they angered neighbors and the APP article showed neighboring towns their chillul hashem. We must be better than this.

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  15. They we're working things out the township could have given warnings or fines, to just shut it down is unprecedented.

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    1. The town has given fines, actually the town says it has the most fines out for that property, they just ignored it all

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  16. Working things out is not a terutz when you do chutzpudigeh things to just feif on every neighbor and don't care about making a Chilul Hashem.

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  17. I pass by that yeshiva almost every day, This idea that the property was less well kept than most other properties in this town is not correct, It is an invention of the app that everybody takes as fact.

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  18. From what I understand the yeshiva spent Thousands of dollars to try to make the situation right, But some well connected neighbors, Developers, and Non developers made sure it couldn't get straightened out,Including but not limited to outright Mesira.

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  19. What used to be called עיר התורה has become an עיר of "Don't you dare impede on my half a million dollar home" even at the expense of a ישיבה being thrown to the dogs.

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  20. This has nothing to do with Torah. It is not the behavior of Beni Torah to do things against the law without permits and put trailers on a residential house and make a chazershtal and then come crying mesirah when neighbors font want it.

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  21. I live on that street and that place shouldve been closed down as soon as it opened. I just dont get how the parentship has no problem with all the shenanigans that take place there.

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  22. Did t the planning board approve the Bais Horaah even though it was hurting local businesses and didn't have nearly enough parking and most of the building was really a business? How come there weren't hundreds of protesters at the meeting? Why didnt Yankel Wenger threaten the neighbors lmaan HATOIRA? Why does the planning board have different rules for different people?i guess it's all about money.

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  23. Two wrongs don't make one right. What this Yeshiva did was awful. You don't do illegal things without a permit and create an eyesore and then come and ask for rachmonus

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  24. Which is what beis horah did

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