Friday, April 1, 2016

Is it ok to fight a shul?

In a letter posted online as a response to the shameful editorial in the APP, the letter writer points out to those that look to uphold zoning laws. "The APP knows that it was precisely Lakewood Orthodox merchants who fought zoning violations in Downtown Lakewood" reads the letter. So perhaps the opposition to the bais horahh is fully justified? How about opposition to other shuls.

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  1. If an application is conforming to local zoning laws why should that be a problem. The opposition to charade in Toms River or the opposition to the shul in Westgate is ulterior motives you can call it anti semitic if you like.

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    1. Chabad of Toms River

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  2. APP Must Take Close Look At Itself – For Religious Profiling
    Rabbi Avi Schnall, Director, Agudath Israel of America New Jersey Office

    “Attorney General must take close look at Lakewood.”

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    So read the headline over a March 24 Asbury Park Press editorial. The “close look,” the editorial explains, is merited by “the encroachment of the Orthodox community” on neighboring areas, “school funding shortfalls,” school busing cutbacks, “building code issues,” flouting of zoning and construction rules, the number of tax-exempt properties in the township and activities of real estate brokers that “smack of classic blockbusting.”

    Readers are warned about the dire situation, which “gets grimmer by the day,” and about that earlier-mentioned “encroachment,” how the Jewish community is… headed… their… way.

    I think it’s time for a look in the mirror – for the APP itself. It is time for the media to apply its lens of daylight and objective truth to itself – to examine the way it portrays Lakewood’s Orthodox as some “insular” religious monster.

    Yes, there are school and busing funding shortfalls in Lakewood. But the Board of Education, the presumed villain “controlled by the Orthodox,” can only work with the funds available to it, and we all know that the State severely shortchanges Lakewood, as it does other districts. The State knows this too well, as it is directly responsible for the districts, via its State monitors. The Toms River school district has a $7.4 million deficit; Freehold schools are underfunded by $7.1 million; Red Bank’s schools a $9.6 million in the red. And Patterson needed a $120 million bailout and Camden even more; why is Lakewood’s $8.5 million deficit alone more worthy of the APP’s call to authorities to investigate Lakewood? And why the call to investigate an entire community of 65,000 people? Is this call not the height of racial profiling and bias?

    Building, zoning and construction laws exist for good reason, and must be respected- something demanded by Lakewood’s citizens, just as they are demanded by Toms River citizens. The APP knows that it was precisely Lakewood Orthodox merchants who fought zoning violations in Downtown Lakewood. The APP, victim to its own fearmongering, is demeaning and denigrating an entire community of good people – as all law breakers, tarring an entire community with an anti-Semitic brush.

    As to the claimed “blockbusting,” by us “invaders” that ugly term that refers to the practice of intimidating homeowners into selling their homes. No one has the right to badger or pressure a homeowner to sell a property. But there are many homeowners in Toms River or Jackson who can testify to the professionalism of those who brokered the sale of their homes to Orthodox Jews. And at, or well above, their established market value. The law of supply and demand is alive and well in the area, and so the desire of some Orthodox Jews to live in the area has only increased property values, in some cases considerably so. Typecasting the Jewish community for a few hundred who move into a township as a huge bloc of blockbusters is falsely tarring an entire community. In doing so the APP is creating fear and hatred that far outweighs and alleged misconduct. The APP is not engaged in blockbusting, it is engaged in community busting and religious bashing.

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  3. As to the number of tax-exempt properties in Lakewood, the facts belie that – Lakewood does not have a high number of tax exempt properties per capita, and it has ADDED over 4 billion dollars in new construction to the tax paying rolls – with new taxable properties. Lakewood is rehabilitated and gentrified and values have gone up – not down – and the towns ratable base has swelled. Why doesn’t the APP recognize all these new taxable properties created by Orthodox families and businesses, and only point to the handful of properly exempt properties? In Lakewood, houses of worship and schools abound, as they should. This is good, not bad, it creates a fabric for a community that is good, not bad. It drives economic vitality, family, community, volunteerism and all the good things that America is made of. Surely, the APP doesn’t mean to assert that Jewish religious institutions should be less accommodated than non-Jewish ones, does it? Why did the APP never attack the college in Lakewood that is not Orthodox affiliated and which has over 150 acres of exempt land, much of it unused? Why did not attack the huge lands owned by the airport, which is tax exempt and serves no public purpose, except to satisfy a few flight enthusiasts, and is not Orthodox affiliated? Why did the APP never bother to attack the Blue Claws Stadium, which is not Orthodox affiliated and which pays no property taxes- and which receives a huge public subsidy, with no benefit to the citizens of Lakewood?

    Why does the editor gloss over the statistics showing the economic engine that has been created in Lakewood? Why ignore the over ten thousand new jobs created by the dozens of businesses that have been created in Lakewood? Why be silent about the countless volunteer organizations and their volunteers, who number over a thousand? Why skip over the volunteer firefighters, first aiders, social service and health volunteers, who serve all of Ocean County- and who are Orthodox? The latest class of firefighters to graduate Ocean County Fire Academy has more than half who are from the Orthodox community –and they serve all. Toms River, Howell, Jackson and Brick First Aid are filled with volunteers who live in Lakewood and care about all– not just about their alleged “insular,” in the words of the APP, selves.



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  4. Opposition to westgate is not anti semitic its guided by Daas Torah from the Rav of Prospect park shul menahel of Cheder Toras menachem, administrator at TBY, R Gavriel Finkel, And many chashuvim who are hiding behind their shadow.

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    1. It all depends on who has more money or clout or screams the loudest. The rabbonim signed a letter against the opposition to the Bais Horaah. In Westgate they are opposing a shul and claim to have rabbonim backing them despite a psak that allowed the shul to build. In Toms River its anti semitic.

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  5. FOUND IN LAKEWOOD: certification by Rabbi Forcheimer that HH is not a rashah for stopping shul.
    Herschel Herskowitz and Herschel Hissiger are fighting over who gets to keep it.

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    1. at least The Donald didn't lose his "100% natural human hair" certification..LOL

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  6. Opposition in WG is not Daas torah at all its baal habatim, This Vogel who hired a lawyer to stop the shul, L and R gardening, westgate circular

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  7. What does Toras Menachem or Prospect Park shul or Tiferes Bais Yaakov have to do with Westgate

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    1. Mispalelim @ Prospect Park shul have nothing to do with this. It's the Rav of the shul Ravens HH who happens to live in Westgate.

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    2. Themispalelim should get involved what happens when PP shul wants to expand will the Rav oppose the shul? What if neighbors complain, how far does the Rav expect the nashim to walk Friday night to a private mikva.

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    3. Toras Menachem also has no shaychus it happens to be the menahel Mandel happens to also control the Westgate Mikva and him and his Brother in law Greenspan were the first to publicly oppose the shul at the township hearing. They than agreed to arbitrate by a din Torah and the psak was in favor of the shul. but that was not good enough once they lost so now others hired a lawyer who usually fights against lakewood mosdos to fight and stop the shul.

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    4. Toras Menachem also has no shaychus it happens to be the menahel Mandel happens to also control the Westgate Mikva and him and his Brother in law Greenspan were the first to publicly oppose the shul at the township hearing. They than agreed to arbitrate by a din Torah and the psak was in favor of the shul. but that was not good enough once they lost so now others hired a lawyer who usually fights against lakewood mosdos to fight and stop the shul.

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    5. Themispalelim should get involved what happens when PP shul wants to expand will the Rav oppose the shul? What if neighbors complain, how far does the Rav expect the nashim to walk Friday night to a private mikva.

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  8. Toras Menachem has no shaychus it happens to be the menahel Mandel controls the Mikva noshim in Westgate and him with his brother in law Greenspan were the first to publicly oppose the shul in Westgate by going to the planing board. After they agreed to a din Torah and the rabbonim ruled in favor of the shul that was not good enough. Now anonymous ppl hired a lawyer to stop the shul. The "chashuvim" are still going around collecting for the lawyer fees(While many can't put bread on the table) There is a huge shortage of seats and the olam is cramped in basements. Shows how far shlechter middos can farfeer people.

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    1. Why in heavens name does a man control a women's mikvah.

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    2. Who is on the board of the mikva? is there any oversite of the finances?

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  9. What Shaychus does Tiferes Bais Yaakov have?

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  10. One of those who hired the lawyer to fight against the shul works there

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  11. Amazing Chabad and Rav Shlomo Feivels yeshiva have to sue and appeal in court and in lakewood fun unzereh are tzadikim to fight against a shul

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  12. Boycott the Asbury Park Press and their Black editor. They've given up on their namesake,Asbury Park ,NJ. The heroin capital of Central NJ.They spend close to $50,000 per student and yet only a Handful graduate HS. Those that graduate don't survive past their 20's in the Crime filled streets with daily drive by shootings.Oh wise Black editor of APP,focus on your people in Asbury Park who need HELP as opposed to Destroying others who educate their children at a Third of the $50,000 spent and Wasted in AP and where 99% of the children Graduate HS. Spare us you're Hatred

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    1. 99% graduate high school? Who u kidding?

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  13. You cant fault an employer for what a employee does. Should you be upset at Rabbi Rottenstreich for the involvement of a rebbe by him in fighting against the shul in westgate

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  14. What is going on. Why would anybody oppose a shul? Is it encroaching on someone's property? Did they go to a beis din? What was the psak?

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    1. encroaching on someone's self esteem.
      Ropshitz kehillah feels that they need to be the only shul above ground. that's the only way to force people to continue davening by them. once another shul moves into a normal building, their membership will dwindle, as was seen when Lutzk opened their shul.
      Its a power struggle at the expense of thousands who are forced to daven in sub human conditions.
      they run around to rabbonim trying to get support for their cause, but it's only the naive ones who are falling for it. Anyone else knows that all concerns were already addressed by a bais din handpicked by R' Malkiel.

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    2. For accuracy's sake please note. Ropshits kehilla not the only above ground shul. The Chassidim/Bentziyon Halberstam have been davening in an above ground shack at the north end of WG for years. And Chuck Weinberg recently opened a minyan adjacent to Ropshits Kehilla which was purportedly started by his stooges Lerner/Green/Greenspan.

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  15. Why would L&R landscaping oppose the shul. Whay does he have with Vogel

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  16. I moved out last year and happy in my own place. However now that im out i feel that i saw first hand what goes on.I davened in the main shul but feel Its time for the old guard to step aside and make room for the new olam. There should be elections held for all Gabbaim why has that not happened yet there is no growth for the young olam moving in. The clicky feeling amongst the older chevrah is very not welcoming to the renters or newcomers. Those who moved out to Jule or Cory or Gudz should not have kedima for a seat over the olam who lives in Westgate. If its a community shul than those living in the community should get preference, if its not a communal shul than what right do they have to stop others from building.

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  17. Where does the Mayor of Westgate stand in all this Is he playing both sides?

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    1. The Mayor moved out

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    2. Dont you worry the mayor is plenty involved, one does not just walk away after being involved for over 10 years hes still got the ear of menashe and meir (and Rav Malkiel too) hes n full control

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