Tuesday, March 1, 2016

Bais Horaah building boarded up again

 The Lakewood inspection Dept has boarded up the building on 4th corner Madison for being an unsafe structure without certificates of occupancy watch Video HERE from APP.com.  “Everybody enjoys this place, and I really hope they work something out quickly because it's a real shame,” says Rabbi Hasenfeld with Bais Hora’ah. according to This report from News12NJ -Lakewood officials are at odds with the tenants of an office building over certificates of occupancy. The building, located on Madison Avenue, houses a Federal Savings Bank, the Bais Hora'ah rabbinical school and the Lakewood Conference Center. According to the township’s code enforcement officer, the building is only approved to have the bank inside.

Everyone inside the building was forced to vacate, and township officials have boarded up the doors. Code enforcement officer Gene Canfield tells News 12 New Jersey that this is the third time officials have had to do this.



“It's been a bone of contention in the community, largely because with the three businesses in there, there's no parking,” says Canfield.

Canfield says that the last two times officials shut the businesses down, the tenants almost immediately pried the boards off the building and were operating their businesses again within 24 hours. Canfield says that the tenants face trespassing charges if they enter the building again.

The tenants say that they just want the dispute to be dealt with.

“Everybody enjoys this place, and I really hope they work something out quickly because it's a real shame,” says Rabbi Hasenfeld with Bais Hora’ah.

Officials say that despite the lack of certificates of occupancy, the tenants still pay rent to the owner.

25 comments:

  1. who called the media to come down was it code enforcement?

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  2. Why did this have to happen three times. The C of O should have been settled after the first time. They can not claim ignorance, just disregard for the law at this point.

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    1. Thr key word (ot should have) but sadly it wasnt for a very good reason

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    2. I suppose it was, but what reason are you thinking about?

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  3. Olam Hafuch the same lawyer defending the Bais Horah was hired to fight against a shul in West Gate. He was also the lawyer hired by Jackson residents to stop Birnbaums Bais Yaakov from building there.

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  4. The big question is who hired the westgate lawyers to stop the shul?

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    1. What does this post have to do with west gate, please stop obsessing about it and posting comments every where, stick to the post that's actually about west gate to post all your nonsense, people are not interested.

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    2. seems like your getting a bit frustrated, trying to defend the Westgate gang. Yes it will be brought up on any every post that anyone wishes to bring it up, and for as many years as anyone wishes to bring it up...thats what a blog is for.

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  5. Um .…
    I just drove by, it doesn't look boarded up to me.

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  6. It's enough of the chillul hashem already!

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  7. not boarded up now

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  8. Its gonna be boarded up again if they did not rectfy the issue.
    Its a lesson to all the landlords. You need a C of O for every new tenant. You cant . When a tenant moves out ,the C of O expires. The landlord needs to apply for a new one for the next tenant.

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  9. Harold herskowitzMarch 3, 2016 at 2:54 AM

    This is not a simple non compliance for a C of O issue. The Bais Horaah was built with a total disregard of its place on the zoning map. A building with that many uses of that type would normally require close to 100 parking g spaces. This was ignored and the owners figured they could just take away the parking from the downtown businesses. They were evicted once their lies were uncovered. We advocated for them to return over a year ago if they would be able to add a parking lot to their building . We gave them 3 months to begin the process. In that time, with the help of Menashe Miller they secretly tried to trick us and get approvals with no parking. Since then they even added more services from the Capitol Motel,causing a bigger parking issue. Ask anyone and they will tell you that in the last two years they have given up trying to park in the Bagel Nosh lot. The hefsed that the Bais Horaah has caused is immeasurable. They were called to a din Torah and refused. The chilul Hashem was caused by Mr. GLICK AND ENABLED BY MENASHE MILLER. And they still continue to try to figure out a way to remain without fixing the situation. I am not the Sheriff, I don't demand compliance to every ordinance.But when people's livelihoods are suffering because of one person's selfishness I cannot stand by and watch. Menashe Miller especially should be ashamed of himself. I don't know how many magazine covers he needs to convince the people of Lakewood that he is a tzadik. But I assure you he is quite the opposite. I hope he advises the owners to either somehow obtain real parking, or sell the building to a single use buyer that will not hurt other businesses.

    On a side note. To Those that insist that the building does not cause any parking problems. There were multiple spaces available to park at all times throughout the day today. Every day they were evicted the parking lots were only half full. So to all Hefkervelt readers that may have given up in frustration trying to get the best Bagel anywhere, please come back, there is plenty of parking again. And to those that were learning and davening in Bais Horaah all this time and are now inconvenienced to have to move. I am sorry about the situation, but now you can have the satisfaction of knowing that your learning and davening is not Yotzeh Schar Behefsaido.

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    1. I will be back in Bagel Nosh this morning. Finally! Thank you

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  10. Is this directed against the offices or the Bais Hoiro'oh? If they closed down the offices would the Bais Hoiro'oh be ok?

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  11. Can't wait for the Parking Nightmare to increase when Mr.G builds all those apartments at the Capital site with only half the parking that's needed

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  12. Harold herskowitzMarch 3, 2016 at 7:52 AM

    No. The offices have enough parking. And a Bais Horaah (courthouse) alone would have enough parking. But they turned it into a open Bais medrash with multiple minyanim. Random chavrusas meet there and have no idea about the parking issue. The building needs to become a single use such as a furniture store or a clothing store that 17 spots would be sufficient. As it is now with all the Capitol minyanim and morning Simchas etc. It would need at least 70 parking spaces. The property next door that they refused to buy for parking will no longer suffice. Mr. Glick has tested our patience. We did everything to be reasonable. Now that Mr. Wenger and Bursztyn are involved, it is a much bigger issue. We cannot trust that they will not start adding even more uses to the building. The parking in the area is visibly better when they are gone. The recent addition of parking can now be used by businesses. Néw businesses are coming to the downtown and are relying on the recently added parking that is now freed up.

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    1. So basically this is a fight against a Bais hamedrash.
      I am not saying it is definitely wrong, but surely such a thing should require approval of a Talmid Chochom. Why not ask someone who understands the issues and bring us a psak? As choshuv as a toy/ice cream store owner may be, this seems above the pay grade.
      If you have a siruv from a bona fide Beis din (not badatz....) let us see it.

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    2. While it is a bris medrash, this isn't a bais din issue. There is no CO for the occupancies there. What's bais din going to do? Get them a CO?

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    3. Harold herskowitzMarch 3, 2016 at 3:53 PM

      They were asked to come to a Bais din in Monsey. The head of the Bais Horaah himself, Rabbi Miller told me that it should close down, but Mr. GLICK is not listening to him. You can't build a Bais medrash on someone else's property and then scream that you are protected because it is a Bais medrash. Nobody is fighting the legal establishment of a Bais medrash or shul. This is the same as stealing someone's land that is not rightfully yours and then hiding behind a Torah to protect you. The fact that they continue to try and remain open while it has an adverse effect on local businesses is a testament to the irony of them calling themselves a Bais Horaah. If anyone needs ShaiLos answered while the Bais horaah looks for a new home, there are many wonderful competent ballei Horaah in Lakewood that do not ignore halacha when it is to their benefit that can be consulted

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    4. You have decided that ignoring zoning laws is stealing someone else's property. I am not disputing that, I would need that pesak to come from someone who knows הלכות דינא דמלכותא דינא and the like. The pashtus should be that it is not stealing and נזקי שכנים do not apply to a Shul, as paskened in ערוך השלחן.
      Did any Beis Din issue a siruv? If not, why not?

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    5. smartallek read what harold said. rabbi miller told him they should close.

      also m'din you may be correct. i am no rabbi, nor do i claim to be. yashrus should be taken into account. either use it as a shul, or for buisnesses. dont use it for both and hurt other yidden.

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  13. Bais Horaah is going to municipal court to appeal it be reopened. They are asking people to come to protest to the judge at two o'clock today in toms river. They put up signs that it was a chilul Hashem to be closed down. But they will be making a chilul Hashem to ask that an illegal building remain open.

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  14. Appeal was denied.

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  15. Its not so simple. The shuls you refer to are community shuls. Here this is a business where the owner happens to be renting a part if his commercial building to a shul. If as alleged ,he got his approvals ftom the town by lying about his true intentions of how many tenants then its not so poshut thst because he decided to make a bais horaah one of his tenants,and that tenant also happens to make minyonim ,that he should he potur from nizkei shcheinim. If a person builds an office building in clear violation of the law and of nizkei shcheinim ,can he then turn around and put in one of his tenants to have minyanim for davening and then say ,ok now im potur from any nizkei shcheinim issue. I dint think so. Besides ,if he git rid of the other businesses ,he could keep the shul so the only reason the shul is closed ,is because he is kerping other businesses that he shouldnt have. I admit that i dont know the facts and obviously cant take a side. But the comoaruson to a shul with ptur ftom nizkei shcheinim is not being medame milsa lemilsa .

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