Thursday, March 17, 2016

A new campaign


26 comments:

  1. http://lakewoodnj.gov/images/db/admin-4478-Spring-Recreation-2016.pdf
    what budget do these items come from? are they cost efficient or run deficits? etc

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  2. Actually not a new campaign at all! In Westgate it's been going on for years.

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  3. It's missing the signatures of rabbonim.

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    1. Ask R Gavriel Finkel and R Shea Krupni where they stand on the issue i wonder if they would sign on publicly

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    2. it's parshas Zachor this week.
      Bloggers and Rabbonim are already annonymus, now we just need to make Amalek annonymus.
      U'Mach Shmoi Ve'Zichroi

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  4. Stop the shuls but not the talking.

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    1. Stop the shul but not the kinah, sinah and kavod

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  5. It's missing the signatures of rabbonim.

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  6. Every shul has a choice to be together as a community Bachdus or to be independent and separated "Bodud".

    If shuls won't cause Machlokes no one will have an issue with it.

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    1. exactly the plan has to be tolerant of other shuls it's not a one size fits all. It's the ones fighting a shul that are causing machlokes.

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    2. exactly the plan has to be tolerant of other shuls it's not a one size fits all. It's the ones fighting a shul that are causing machlokes.

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  7. Anonymous misnagdim to the shul hiding behind anonymous Rabbonim why are they hiding? do they think the eibishter dosent know?

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  8. With all due respect, it's not the shuls causing the machlokes. It's the same handful of insecure, power hungry bullies who have continually caused trouble for Helberg's shul since its inception 12 years ago. Some of these people don't even live in west gate anymore but you can't run away from your insecurities and ta'avos!!

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  9. The only people fighting the shul are the Noshim Tzidkonyos the "righteous" Woman that came down publicly to the planing board meeting at the municipal court, to fight one of the largest shuls in Lakewood. BM Of Kelmwoods which was founded some 16 years ago with encouragement of the Roh Yeshivos Shlita and the Mashgiach Shlita. If that is not enough the Gdolai Torah in Eretz Yisroel were in full support of the Bais Medrash and its Rov.
    The group of gangsters were fighting totth and nail from the begining when they realized it would put them in a bad light they send their wives to come out against it. But the saying goes behind every Woman stands a Man.

    These Ladies the Noshim tsidkonyos who live in Kelmwoods and Nortcrest Ave and Kletskhill Rd, cut ties with friends and neighbors these noshim tzidkonyos are teaming up with the WOW From the Western Wall in E Israel to disgrace the Mkomos Hakodoshim and only delay the Geula Bzchus Noshim Tsidknyos nigalu avosainu mMitsrayim Ubzchus Noshim Tzidkonyos Klal Yisroel fell deeper in golus/Exile increasing Hatred, Jealousy, gossip, and Znus. Yes, these Noshim exposed themselves like Prutzos R"L to be mekalkel their Neshomos children and their prayers. Hashem doesn't listen to Tfilos of someone who causes others not to able to Pray peacefully in their shul. Hashem runs away from someone who is a Baal Gava/arrogant and doesn't mind standing up in front of a whole tzibbur of men their own neighbors and their children's friend parents and protest against them. How much more so when it was done against your own rabbi's ruling and your actions were a pure sin.

    Who can ta woman stand in front of the almighty and with siddur to their eyes with tears and tissues poring out her heart for her family. When she is the one who prevented so many men women and children from Davening with a minyan in a shul.

    How can a women get close to God by doing the duties of a Jewish Mom when that women herself caused G-D to turn away from her.

    If the ladies were forced to do so by their husbands they are not exempt and their long bearded husband is just as responsible.

    I hope you don't want your children to know about your actions.

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  10. If it was so cut n dry you would havd the roshey yeshjva put out a kol korey/cherim against these people. The big question is why are the rosh yeshivas sitting back?

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    1. that's quite simple.
      they would never take a public stand when they know that people may publicly oppose it.

      they set up the bais din which ruled in favor of the shul.

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    2. That is the most sick thing someone could say! Such lies. They very obviously didn't rule in favor of the shul. You're just so sick and distorted that you'll stop at nothing.

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    3. Sick? Distorted?
      maybe you need the reality check.
      just scroll back on this blog to February 2, and you will see the signatures of the rabbonim.
      A bais din created by R' Malkiel, made up of Rabbi Shachar, Rabbi shulgasser and Rabbi Forcheimer, paskened that there is no problem with the proposed shul.

      You want to say they changed their minds? Do you have that in writing?
      Hmmmmmmmmm. zzzzzzzzz

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    4. The "Stop The Shul" campaign also has very chashuveh rabbonim on their side. Rabbis Hess, Hissiger, Halpern, Krupenia, Hershkowitz. Although Rabbi Hershel Hershkowitz , a musmach of BMG, is the only one that actually put it in writing.

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  11. Err because they're ummmm scared of the bullies????

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  12. If they are scared of the bullies they should be de- frockt. Rabnonim are rabonim for a reason and if they cant handle it then leave the shtella. If its too hot in the kitchen ,leave

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  13. Boring, next topic

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    1. Boring for you nut not for those whose life mission is to stop a shul at all costs hiring a lawyer to masser.

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    2. Anyone who finds it boring should go read other posts. To those of us whose shul is in jeopardy it is not boring at all - it is unfortunately a very real drama being played out to the full.

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    3. Blogging rules:
      when something is boring you move past it on to the next topic.

      posting that its boring shows that you are either bored in general, or hope to influence others, and convince them that it's boring.

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  14. boring means you want this issue to go away it means he uncomfortable about it. Sorry you have been exposed and it won't go away, you have caused hundreds to not have a shul.

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