Saturday, December 19, 2015

A tale of two cities

Lakewood and East Ramapo both two cities where the vast majority of residents are  frum Orthodox Jews  who primarily send their children to private yeshivas. Lakewood has a state monitor appointed by the state with veto power over a democratically elected school board. Monsey is now under the same threat. Look at the approach taken in East Ramapo, the Agudah and other activists held press conferences and wrote letters decrying the unconstitutionality of overriding a school board. Aron Weider a activist and community askan has resigned a respected government position so he could put all his energy to fight on behalf of the children and avoid any conflict of interests. Time will tell how it plays itself out but boy are they are putting up a fight. Contrast to Lakewood where the monitor is in full control and despite assurances from the vaad, Igud and other askanim the district keeps upping the anty and another busing cut threat and tax hike looms. While they claim to cut spending  they are targeting the Orthodox community. Vaad members, Askanim with conflicts of interest should not be representing the tzibbur if they cant advocate on our behalf. Its time to band together and learn from those selfless individuals how to approach this. If legal action can be taken let it be done. Pulling out the chilul hashem card, is a cop out unless theres a machlokes on how to approach this.

27 comments:

  1. No comparison. The yidish community population is so much bigger in NYC and NYS and the political clout is strong. We have absolutely no,political clout in Lakewood. We have a few thousand votes on the state level and bligs like this advocate against the vaad bloc vote so we dont even have that. Its no comparison. Stop blaming people. If you think we have clout then do something

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    1. The vaad always before an election claims to have connections with politicians to help the kehila. So much for their connections and political clout if they were there for the tzibbur and not for the needs of a few things would not be the way it is. They took a gamble and endorsed Corzine over christie thinking they will get something from him. Not only that they refused to even meet with christie when he asked for a meeting. In the end most of the lakewood vote went for christie despite the vaad s endorsement of Corzine. However since the self appointed vaad officially represents the lakewood voting block at least in the eyes of the politicians it's been a rocky relationship with the administration hence all the trouble from the depth of education and elsewhere. Only a vaad that is transparent elected by the loam with no conflicts of interest can advocate on behalf of the kcal and have the trust of the tzibbur.

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    2. Your attempt to blame this for lack of support for the Vaad is parhetic. The Vaad does nor represent the Klal, but the onterests of the Prat.

      They have tremendous clout in local elections, and it has brought only havoc to Lakewood.

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  2. Appoint Yudel Shain to the board of Ed

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    1. Yudel Shain, Harold Hershkowitz, Chaim Shaulson, u fill in the next 2....

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  3. The vaad is not self appointed. It is appointed by BMG. Your fight is not with the VAAD. It is with the roshei yeshivah who appoint the Vaad.

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    1. Almost right. The askanim who the yeshiva relies on for community affairs told the Roshei yeshiva who to appoint

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  4. The Vad is an independent body in the last election they couldn't produce a current letter from the roshei yeshiva. The letter was from a few years ago. Why won't the vaad members even sign their names.

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  5. Utter nonsense. The roshei yeshiva may or may not write letters of endorsement but yhey appoint the vaad members and they certainly are adamantly against disbanding this vaad and forming a newly elected one. Everybody knows this. You can ask them.

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  6. Go ahead make your own vaad no one is stopping you.

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    1. You mean to say "no one is sgopping you right now"

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  7. does anyone have any ideas what we as simple laymen can do right now to combat the state monitor's tyranny? would writing letters en masse to Christie help? obviously, we have to somehow bypass the vaad anyone with good ideas how to do something NOW please let us know

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  8. We should demand that all non mandated programs be put on a referendum. Let the taxpayers decide which programs to cut.Let them show us the BOE budget line by line we Will than have a clear picture as to where all the money is going.

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  9. There is boe money paying for pre-k it is not mandated!!! Who is benefiting from that? Why is that not cut instead of courtesy buying which benefits all taxpayers.

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  10. The state and the monitor do not share our feelings and concerns. They believe that the public non mandated such as sports and after school programs are important and can not be cut. They belive that the public comes before non public. We belive that the taxpayer should decide any non,mandated and that thete is no difference betwern publicand private in non mandated. It is hard to fight the state.

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  11. They state does not have the power where to cut. We should take them to federal court.

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  12. As long as the monitor is here you have no,power to fight. And because of the bad formula the monitor will be here forever.

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    1. There is a good chance to win in court. A monitor can not overrule an elected school board. It should go to the Supreme court if necessary.

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  13. Enroll all the Jewish boys in public school and actually follow through on it. See if that sends any kind of wake up call to Trenton. It is a powerful tool if you choose to use it. If your not willing to use the power you have then don't complain.

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  14. Please research the nj law. A monitor has very broad powers

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  15. A monitor can definitely overrule under curent nj law

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  16. There is no chance to win in court.

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    1. Yes there is. The state should be taken to court its a democracy and when you have no representation it violates the constitution. Look what happened in Lawrence a few years ago it went to court and the federal judge ruled against the district.

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  17. Please give the 250000 forthelawyer

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    1. 323 gave money for legal fees.

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  18. If 323 gave money then call him and tell him to file suit

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    1. Get it from the guys who wrote the 323 article they seem to have gotten the money.

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