Sunday, November 29, 2015

The Rishus continues, when will it end.

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Its an unfortunate scene, a youngerman sitting in his home is tossed out into the streets thrown out of his house by police officers who serve him a restraining order. Not only from his house and spouse but from his children as well. Its not a rare scene, its happening at an alarming rate in the heiliger ihr haTorah. Shalom bayis is no longer an option or is it controlled and dealt with by Rabbonim and halacha, it has been hijacked by feminist rabbonim, armature, immature and incompetent therapists and askanim. Many of these cases could have easily been avoidable. There will always be two sides, divorce is ugly but the approach taken in lakewood is that of the Modern orthodox or perhaps secular. Halacha and Torah goes out the window. Rabbonim listening only to one side of a story is not new, but the involvement of authorities removing a husband from the home and away from his children just to get an upper hand and start proceedings is out right rishus and a chilul hashem.  Frum Therapists and referral agencies taking sides without proper procedures is the norm. The number of living yesomim in Lakewood is well over a hundred and counting. Goyishe treife hashkafos have infiltrated out society. Therapists treating children not to respect a parent is common, the focus is not shalom bayis anymore instead its churban bayis.

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  1. The goyishe treife hashkafos are yours, bashing rabbonim as a whole, to further your filthy agenda.

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    1. Nice try to spin the issue nowhere are rabbonim bashed.

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  2. Where do we even begin as chazal say binyan nearim stira, stiras zkeinim binyan..When the free therapy agencies in town have interns in training and they are trusted to deal with these difficult cases this is a result. When a Rav is hired in a shul or development not always does he have the proper training how to deal with shalom bayis or other issues. When bullies are given control of these issues the result is disastrous. when these issues are controlled by rabbis who are not bnei torah this is a result. There are many ehrliche Rabbonim who are screaming out against what is going on but its hard to fight the maffia of feminists and those in power and control.. hopefully more awareness and publicizing will bring some change.

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  3. While I am not familiar with this case at all; what gives you the high and holy right to be the great decider of what is "al pi daas Torah" and what isn't? This blogs name in and of itself is very informative as to who or what "daas Torah" you ascribe to. You pretend to show an iota of sechel?! Do you know of the father was mentally ill!? Is he an addict? In his drinker stupours does he assault his wife and children!? You have real chutzpah to give anonymous critique in a most general manner and besmirch good people helping others.

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    1. Exactly you are NOT familiar!!!! Nuff said. and please dont pull out the daas torah card when you use it for your agenda.

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    2. The filth writing the article alludes to the lack of control by rabannim and halacha you moron.
      I did not bring it up for my agenda. And of course you have not addressed my critique in the least. Namely, your blanket accusations. Leads me to believe you've had a falling out with your therapist.

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    3. Please learn how to read. It states clearly that Unfortunately shalom bayis is no longer in the control of Rabbonim and halacha but has been hijacked....

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    4. Your entire supposition is based on a assumption that rabbonim were not involved in this case and basically all cases in LAKEWOOD. You title your baseless vitriol with "the RISHUS continues". So either you as the anonymous no named muck racking blogger, are somehow omnipresent at each shalom bay is issue, or you're full of yourself and simply wish to besmirch therapists.
      Which leads me to believe "Thou does protest too much"
      Ever consider shock treatment?

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  4. Its all about GELT GELT GELT more cases ,more problems, more patients, more broken homes, more therapy = More Money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ wife therapy, husband therapy, children therapy, divorced kids therapy,= mucheo denero

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  5. I can still hear the words of Moreinu Rav Avigdor Miller zatzal about the fate of a women who throws her husband out of his house.

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  6. From an article in the Jewish Press http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/interviews-and-profiles/a-gathering-place-for-the-most-serious-talmidei-chachamim-an-interview-with-rabbi-aaron-kotler-president-of-beth-medrash-govoha/2015/04/01/

    Does BMG get involved in marriage issues like prenuptial agreements?

    The roshei yeshiva have repeatedly expressed their immense pain at seeing destructive costly court battles among families. They wish for the beis din system to be strengthened, and for clear resolution, if not a form of shalom, in a timely fashion.

    BMG does not have or plan to have a beis din, so it has no direct role in this issue. Yet there are highly regarded dayanim and batei din in Lakewood, including leading halachic experts such as Rabbis Feivel Cohen, Yaakov Forchheimer, Simcha Bunim Cohen, and Shmuel Meir Katz, among others. I am personally aware of their interest in finding solutions, including exploring the halachic and social ramifications of a tenaim or prenup.

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    1. I'm not sure why but only people who have very pro women tendencies support pre nuptials.Having seen some prototype"halachic prenuptial" I think any chosson who signs one is out of his mind. They are so favorable to the wife that anyone who signs them can claim "Meshata hayesi" There are other halacha issue with them but I'm not going to pretend I know enough to have an opinion on those issues.

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    2. Rav Elyashiv assered it.

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  7. In a town where girls are STILL not in school why is this surprising ???

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  8. Simcha bunim cohen *finding solutions* ? Thats laughable!

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  9. When very choshuv Rabbonim are screaming out against this injustice and openly call pull back from the court system and drop the restraining orders , Askanim with no shred of yiras shomayim think they know better are literally breaking families apart and raitzing un the rishus so they can feel important. who are these askanim??... hold on tight

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  10. AnonymousNovember 29, 2015 at 7:00 PM,
    Good question!
    who are these askanim??
    The people should be in informed.
    Very often so called asscans insert themselves "involved" to be in the know with Absolutely no intention or abilities to help.

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  11. What happened to our mesorah. Don't we go to Beis din?

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  12. Some of these askanim are laughable people, bullies, who everyone should stay away from. Its all fun and games until it affects you.

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  13. Don't trust any free therapy agency in town. They are corrupt and will do anything for a buck. They are controlled by control freaks that lie about everything and will claim they have daas Torah backing them. If you don't want to take my word for it then enter at your own risk.

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  14. Some of the bullies hold they are daas Torah.

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  15. Don't cross paths with these people. Generally speaking they are all involved in a scandel or three.

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  16. A young shnook decides to play shalom bayis therapist without any safeguards that any respected mature rav or therapist will take. He ends up spending alot of time talking with the wife and naturally siding with her talking to her for hours in private both in person and on the phone without the husbands knowledge. He will than spread any lie and do all he can to please the woman he bashmutzes the husband and the wife get a tro and remove the children just to give her leverage in the divorce battle.

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    1. One wonders were he got the idea to have dyfis called

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  17. Obviously most of us have no clue about the facts. But this is why this blog will never be taken seriously. You dont take a serious issue with 2 sides and portray your side as a given fact. The purpoe of a blog is to,provide news ,not to give one sided opinions. Regardless of whether you believe you are 100 per cent right. This blog does this with too many issues where there are 2 sides, taking one side ,leaving out relevant facts and using sharp critical language to portray as if there is no other side.

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    1. A blog gives an opinion on a subject or on a news item. If you read the post the author does not take any side. The issue at hand is the "approach" that is used in divorce cases.

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  18. Funny when allegations surface about certain well protected people the establishment goes to bat for them yet the very same certain people will turn around and bury someone else to prove they have clean hands.

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  19. Thank you once again Hefkervelt for bringing up important topics that effect our community. This post was informative and also upsetting. But it is important that this topic be discussed. Thank you for keeping the LH to a minimum even on such a heated topic. This is now becoming the go to website for all of Lakewood that wants a little more than reports of weather, accidents or patting officials on the back.

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  20. Another father having his children ripped away from him another case of mesira to authorities dyfis, under the guise of mandated reporting, more tears of children whose father was removed from their home by police officers, more retzicha by askanim with no fear of heaven= more middas hadin Rachmana litzlan on our heligeh shtut hashem should watch over us for allowing such practices to occur on a daily basis.

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  21. Who gave the heter arkaos here? One rav pulled it back and called the people involved moisrim the other rav is hiding behind anonymity.

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  22. In a recent case the father took the therapists in an local agency to a din torah for calling the authorities on him which caused his children to be taken away from him, they were treating his children without his knowledge, he won the din torah. The bais din ruled they have no right to treat the children nor did they have any basis to contact the authorities it was straight out mesira to protect themselves. The money he was forced to spend on legal fees plus damages was in the hundreds of thousands. these are the therapists that are in charge of precious neshamos

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  23. I happen to know the therapist some of you are bashing. He is a tzaddik and woe to the people critiquing him. I would tremble before taking on a person with so many zechusim. I am surprised that hefkervelt is taking sides especially when there can't be any transparentcy due to HIPPA regulations. It is comical for anyone to surmise what the true facts of the case are.

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    1. Why would a young therapist counsel young couples its very not healthy to say the least. There are so many stories of male therapists that have had inappropriate relationships with the young women they counsel even in unzer heimishe shichten.

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    2. How is it a zechus to break apart a home and have a father thrown out of his house without seeing his children? How is it a zechus when there is mesira?

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    3. Yep... a big Tzaddik... Tzaddikim regularly break up homes... right? Tzadikim teach woman how to be Moiser... right? If he truly feared for this woman's safety or for her children, he wouldn't wait to "help" till many months passed.... He would immediately arrange shelter etc. But he's a Tzaddik, so he can do whatever he wants.... The Aibishter knows what this therapist did here... I know this Yungerman, his wife & his kids... I know what's going on... In Shomayim, these Rabbonim who heard one side & this therapist will have blood to pay...

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    4. as chazal say binyan nearim stira, this therapist should be banned from ever counseling any shalom bayis caes. How can we allow a guy in his thirties with a taavas noshim to give therapy to younger ladies or even those close in age. Its unheard of in any established frum community but in lkwd you can do what you want.

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    5. its a pity on the children , we have a duty to bring this to light so that someday as adults they will with a little internet research find out who caused them to grow up in a broken home. maybe file a lawsuit against the idiots who were quick to judge , asked two few questions, had no time to work on 'just another case' of shalom bayis because there is clearly 'no hope' . reminds me of a story i was pulling into a gas station and a guy noticed the emblem in my aluminum rims was shaking making noise. i knew about it and was in no rush to fix it because it was purely cosmetic and only slightly anoying, but no one ever pointed it out to me in public. he couldnt live with it, got a tool from his car and fixed it. i questioned him how he paid attention to such a small thing , and it turns out he is a car mechanic. he gets paid to notice small things that may be issues. same with these therapists, they are looking for things to fix. if they find something broken even slightly, they SIMPLY MUST FIX IT! dont they understand that not every marriage needs to be taken apart in order to fix? I SWEAR if they would stop and think how many kids lives they have spoiled over the years, they would throw the towel in and look for another profession.when will we realize that MANY ISSUES IN SHALOM BAYIS ARE PURELY COSMETIC !! IT CANNOT BE THAT EVERY HUSBAND IS AN ABUSER, GET REFUSER AND LOWLIFE raboisai , men are nirdaf in America, and the rodef were the lawyers, and the family courts. We always knew the feminists were, but NOW the newest men rodfim are our own rabbomin , askonim and chosheveh therapists . they are drinking the 'american values' poison everyday fed to them by the tzibur who is SWIMMING in it. when will we realize how far we have strayed from the path of hashem and his torah?

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  24. HIPPA regulations?? are you kidding, you mean when they speak to rabbonim to obtain a heter arkaos there is no HIPPA its only online?

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  25. Bottom line. Its a big chutzpah to take sides on a blog when there is not an open discussion of both sides presenting the facts. Just because some blogger uses sharo language and makes himself sound imoirtant doesnt mean there usnt another side. So lets leave these issues to the parties involved to sort out.

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    1. aha its a big chutzpah?? no one can take a side? do you think no one knows what is going on in town. those days are over more and more people are finding out about all the rishus.. yes rishus that is used shelo kedin by askanim feminists therapists all to let the woman have an upper hand.

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  26. You can take whatever side you want. But just because you use tough words like rishus,and feminist , does not mean any reasonable person will agree with you without hearing the other sides version of the story. You sound like somebody who will pasken a din Torah by hearing only one side. Unfortunately there are those types of people in the world.

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  27. If you are so concerned about Chilul hashem why weren't you moche about the Tamar Epstien situation. That a far bigger chilul Hashem and the all the facts are public. Obviously you have an agenda and not really concerned about chilul hashem. Now if you have an agenda you can't be fair and open minded you are pushing your opinion without even having all the facts. So all you are interested in is slandering a good person.

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    1. Is that a Lakewood issue?

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  28. Yes... This is a massive problem... Chas Visholom we shouldn't Barshmootz Rabbonim. But when a Rov does wrong, & in this field many do way more wrongs than right, they have to take resposibilty... When confronted, they back off sheepishly, but don't repair the damage... It's sad... This therapist you're talking about is well known for this type of behavior... He lies, & he guides women how to lie, & then he believes his own lies... Has-hem should open his eyes. In this case in question, the Avlah done to the husband is Zoekes Lashomayim Mamish! But this therapist, who coordinated all the damage, will do nothing to repair the tremendous destruction he created. The Mesirah that was done here with the so called "Heter" from a Rov who never heard the husband is insane. But this therapist thinks he's G-d....

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  29. Once you arm a women with the heter you are fully responsible for any ramifications that will come out. These cowards run away like chickens when they are confronted or when things spiral out of control as a direct result of their actions. Lakewood will not be silent at what is going on here.

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  30. Way to go lkwd have a child to testify against a parent. This is what theses tzadikim/askanim can be proud of. What a badge of honor. Never mind the potential damage and influence siblings and classmates.

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  31. talking from personal experienceDecember 13, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    All that is applicable for me to say is that a lot of this happened to me that a false restraining order kicked me out of my house and limited me from my children for leverage in court.the only words that scream out is chilul Hashem on the highest levels!!!!I believe if people would help others on these issues they can be prevented although I am not judging how easy this is to fulfill.

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